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Jan 9, 2020 22:01:45   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
User ID wrote:
Lighter smaller gear doesn't necessarily
lighten the loaded weight of your bag. It
just allows you to carry a more versatile
outfit ... same bag, same weight.


True that.

I have big bags to carry my full outfits to and from shoots. Digital goes in big canvas Billinghams, and older film gear into vintage leather bags of the appropriate era.

But I also carry a small bag to hold a body and a couple of lenses to go walkabout. I just have to return to my vehicle if I need to change things up.

Andy

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Jan 9, 2020 22:17:19   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I shoot a lot of indoor HS wrestling matches as my son, in addition to teaching, is also the wrestling coach. Since the HS gyms are VERY low light, my go to high ISO rig is a Canon 5D4 (with battery grip) and a 70-200 f2.8L - weighs about 6 lbs. no way to use a monopod and once a match starts, you really need to have the camera at eye level as you never know what second the action is going to unfold. Even with arms braced against chest, at 74, this is very difficult after a 3 hour tournament. I love my crop Fuji, but when you’re routinely shooting at ISO 10,000, the FF Canon is the answer for this type of work. This last year, I’ve substantially lowered the pain by moving to a 135 f2. Not only is it half the weight of the 70-200, but it’s a lot shorter as well. I stick a matched 1.4x TC in my pocket for those times when I need 200mm. When those big zooms get too heavy, consider a smaller, lighter (and sharper) prime. You may have to zoom with your feet or crop more in PP, but it can lighten your system substantially.

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Jan 10, 2020 06:19:46   #
deadeye93
 
Tomcat5133 wrote:
Thanks for bringing this up Elliot. I am a spry 76. My kids Son and Daughter keep challenging me with
are you alright. Don't do that Dad.

A couple of weeks ago a good friend and business partner at times had a 3.5 min. music video and industrial company wanted to do with it's employees. And they were a good client with 32 plants across the US. So we went on a monday. Scouted main office in PA for places to shoot this skit with a song and he
told me they didnt want a crew etc. 20 scenes of employee's in different places in an office building.
Singing a pop song to be somewhat synched for a National Sales Meeting. Monday we scouted and shot
on Tues. I was moving 2 lights. Improvising shots in boring spots. and directing the action. Oh and I was the DP told them it would be run and gun hand held which I do a lot of running and sports events.
I use a PXW X70 10 bit sony camcorder rigged. Sony makes some excellent doc cameras.

It was not easy as a director/camera I let it happen the way they wanted. Then gave them a rough
cut by the end of the shoot week. And then the corporate set in and they liked my approach but
politics and nitpicking of a bunch of reviewers made the edit intense for 8 rounds of changes.
This is not the way to do this. But today is cheap and fast and good. We don't have a big budget.
The video is a success. Their were still a few changes to titles etc.

Why wouldn't a 76 year old not be able to do this. My wife worries. My daughter worries.
My son in FL continually says to me shooting my star soccer player from the sidelines
sit down Dad. Are you alright. Are you too warm. Drink some water.

You can do what you do as long as you can do it.

Now a too heavy camera like my Sony mirrorless a7sII video rig with a cage monitor and audio is too heavy to hand hold for a long time. I prefer the small pro camcorder which is really great for busy work.

My former Nikons and DSLR's loved them are way to heavy loaded with a good lens.

If I am shooting run & gun of a triathlon or running event I use a monopod to shoot live action.
For interesting angles I hand hold. And quick interviews the monopod hiked up to my eye level
so I can see the shot and ask a question. You can hike the monopod with a camera in the air
for high shots of the action. Yes i have a drone. Get someone to shoot aerials for jobs.

I was at a multi camera shoot of a TV chef lady making 13 shows for public TV. I am the
consultant for them for years. their were 4 cameras on sticks. And the only guy who got
tired was the guy with the hand held jib rig that he said was heavy but some of the best shots.
Yes I do stills and rip screen grabs off of high quality HD video too.

Weight depends on what you are doing and where you are going.
It appears today that our society is writing off some of the best talent and intelligent
business and creative people because it is a young coder internet world.

My apologies for this being long but wanted to share experiences and approaches.
Thanks for bringing this up Elliot. I am a spry 76... (show quote)


I am 93 and still use my cameras. Some times take both 60D canon and T6s when taking pictures. Remember age is just a number.

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Jan 10, 2020 06:27:48   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Hear here! When I'm asked for my age, (very infrequently), I tell them the age of my birth certificate.

If asked to elaborate, I tell them my brain doesn't relate to the birth certificate.

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Jan 10, 2020 07:08:27   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Great post - thanks. I'm now dealing with loss of upper body strength - Dumb bells that a year ago were of little consequence are now getting heavier.

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Jan 10, 2020 07:23:49   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I consider myself fortunate. Though I've upgraded my equipment, I still carry a 4x5 somewhat regularly. On this trip, it was for several hours. Yes, I do exercise just so I can enjoy my photography.
--Bob

elliott937 wrote:
I'm posting this under "photography" since the weight of a camera seriously comes up far more often with the advent of mirrorless DSLR. And I understand that. But here's a point I'd like to make.

Ten years ago, when I taught and also broadcasted at a local radio station, on one day, I arrived an hour early. The station was on the campus of a local college, with silk smooth private street. So I brought my roller blades, and enjoyed myself before going into the building. I carried them into the studio, to a shocked announcer, 15 years younger, who ask "were you really skating on those?" Yes, was my response. He replied with "I know I'm too old to be skating on roller blades, and you certainly are too old to do that!"

To him I asked: "Did you buy a book on AGES, where each chapter tells you what you can do and can no longer do? And you believe what you read?"

As we grow older, we should not be in a super hurry to stop doing what we enjoy doing, from skating and from carrying a DSLR that we've carried for years earlier. Yes, I've stopped climbing a 20 foot ladder to clean gutters. But instead of using a snow shovel, I now use a snow blower. I'm in no hurry to give into "Mother Nature", only because others might suggest we should. Keep doing what you enjoy. My doctor reminds me that us "older folks" naturally grow weaker with our upper body muscles, and we should actually use those muscles more than before. I think of that every time I pick up my 5DII with it's battery back.

Let's exercise more, not less.
I'm posting this under "photography" sin... (show quote)


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Jan 10, 2020 07:31:36   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
elliott937 wrote:
I'm posting this under "photography" since the weight of a camera seriously comes up far more often with the advent of mirrorless DSLR. And I understand that. But here's a point I'd like to make.

Ten years ago, when I taught and also broadcasted at a local radio station, on one day, I arrived an hour early. The station was on the campus of a local college, with silk smooth private street. So I brought my roller blades, and enjoyed myself before going into the building. I carried them into the studio, to a shocked announcer, 15 years younger, who ask "were you really skating on those?" Yes, was my response. He replied with "I know I'm too old to be skating on roller blades, and you certainly are too old to do that!"

To him I asked: "Did you buy a book on AGES, where each chapter tells you what you can do and can no longer do? And you believe what you read?"

As we grow older, we should not be in a super hurry to stop doing what we enjoy doing, from skating and from carrying a DSLR that we've carried for years earlier. Yes, I've stopped climbing a 20 foot ladder to clean gutters. But instead of using a snow shovel, I now use a snow blower. I'm in no hurry to give into "Mother Nature", only because others might suggest we should. Keep doing what you enjoy. My doctor reminds me that us "older folks" naturally grow weaker with our upper body muscles, and we should actually use those muscles more than before. I think of that every time I pick up my 5DII with it's battery back.

Let's exercise more, not less.
I'm posting this under "photography" sin... (show quote)


My Sony mirrorless a9 with my Sony 200-600 weighs much more than my Nikon D500 with the Nikon 500 5.6 attached. So much for the weight advantage of mirrorless. It really is not that much difference between the two for wildlife photography.

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Jan 10, 2020 07:34:23   #
eadler
 
I'm going to be the outlier here. In my previous life I was an ardent cyclist. 40 to 50 mile rides were the norm. So I take my cues from that perspective. In that world weight was everything. Shaving ounces from your kit meant being able to manage a ride better, ride longer. That's why I chose an APS-C camera rather than a full frame and rarely carry a second lens. Recently I was considering trading in my excellent 55-135 lens for a very fine 70-200. In the end I kept my old lens because the 70-200 weighed 1 pound more. That extra pound over the course of day would get heavier and heavier. I just couldn't do it.

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Jan 10, 2020 07:35:35   #
PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon
 
Now this is a very pertinent topic.

Let me explain. I’m 75 and working hard to remain fit and healthy. But my head isn’t quite as sharp as it used to be. For instance, I purchased a second Nikon lens for my Nikon D750 but can’t recall what it is without going into the room next door and looking it up. But more importantly my camera bag only takes the D750 so I can’t carry both lenses with me.

So probably getting a better camera case is a first option because I would be more likely to use both lenses and, perhaps, get another lens.

What are the camera case options?

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Jan 10, 2020 07:57:48   #
wishaw
 
Great that all of the old folks are still active and carrying their gear. My grandsons are doing flag football so it is the 70D with battery pack and the 80 300 L. End on the monopod.
The point that seems to be missed is that I still have my xti. It is 10 years older and weighs a lot less than the 70D. The xti is a 10mp and the 70D is a 20. You would think that with the advances the camera manufacturers would have found a way to make megapixels weigh less. Do not think I will be getting a 50 or 60 map as it may be too heavy to carry

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Jan 10, 2020 07:59:20   #
PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon
 
AndyH wrote:
True that.

I have big bags to carry my full outfits to and from shoots. Digital goes in big canvas Billinghams, and older film gear into vintage leather bags of the appropriate era.

But I also carry a small bag to hold a body and a couple of lenses to go walkabout. I just have to return to my vehicle if I need to change things up.

Andy


I have just looked up online Billingham Camera bags and they look great. Fabulous range and I will do research into what is best for my needs. Very helpful! The link for anyone else is https://billingham.co.uk/collections/camera-bags

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Jan 10, 2020 08:13:32   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
In a few months, I'll be 76, but I've never limited myself in what I can do. I no longer run, but that's just a choice - time limitations, etc. When you start thinking you're too old for something, things go downhill very fast. As for the weight of cameras, when you add a long lens to a mirrorless, there isn't much difference in weight compared with a DSLR. If weight is a concern, buy a self-contained compact.

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Jan 10, 2020 08:36:56   #
WDCash Loc: Milford, Delaware, USA
 
elliott937 wrote:
I'm posting this under "photography" since the weight of a camera seriously comes up far more often with the advent of mirrorless DSLR. And I understand that. But here's a point I'd like to make.

Ten years ago, when I taught and also broadcasted at a local radio station, on one day, I arrived an hour early. The station was on the campus of a local college, with silk smooth private street. So I brought my roller blades, and enjoyed myself before going into the building. I carried them into the studio, to a shocked announcer, 15 years younger, who ask "were you really skating on those?" Yes, was my response. He replied with "I know I'm too old to be skating on roller blades, and you certainly are too old to do that!"

To him I asked: "Did you buy a book on AGES, where each chapter tells you what you can do and can no longer do? And you believe what you read?"

As we grow older, we should not be in a super hurry to stop doing what we enjoy doing, from skating and from carrying a DSLR that we've carried for years earlier. Yes, I've stopped climbing a 20 foot ladder to clean gutters. But instead of using a snow shovel, I now use a snow blower. I'm in no hurry to give into "Mother Nature", only because others might suggest we should. Keep doing what you enjoy. My doctor reminds me that us "older folks" naturally grow weaker with our upper body muscles, and we should actually use those muscles more than before. I think of that every time I pick up my 5DII with it's battery back.

Let's exercise more, not less.
I'm posting this under "photography" sin... (show quote)


Well said!!.

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Jan 10, 2020 08:37:39   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
Although weight did play a part in my switch to micro 4/3s, one of the unexpected benefits was that I take my camera with me much more frequently than I did with my Nikon. And, as a reult of more frequent use, my keeper rate has gone up!

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Jan 10, 2020 08:45:30   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
elliott937 wrote:
I'm posting this under "photography" since the weight of a camera seriously comes up far more often with the advent of mirrorless DSLR. And I understand that. But here's a point I'd like to make.

Ten years ago, when I taught and also broadcasted at a local radio station, on one day, I arrived an hour early. The station was on the campus of a local college, with silk smooth private street. So I brought my roller blades, and enjoyed myself before going into the building. I carried them into the studio, to a shocked announcer, 15 years younger, who ask "were you really skating on those?" Yes, was my response. He replied with "I know I'm too old to be skating on roller blades, and you certainly are too old to do that!"

To him I asked: "Did you buy a book on AGES, where each chapter tells you what you can do and can no longer do? And you believe what you read?"

As we grow older, we should not be in a super hurry to stop doing what we enjoy doing, from skating and from carrying a DSLR that we've carried for years earlier. Yes, I've stopped climbing a 20 foot ladder to clean gutters. But instead of using a snow shovel, I now use a snow blower. I'm in no hurry to give into "Mother Nature", only because others might suggest we should. Keep doing what you enjoy. My doctor reminds me that us "older folks" naturally grow weaker with our upper body muscles, and we should actually use those muscles more than before. I think of that every time I pick up my 5DII with it's battery back.

Let's exercise more, not less.
I'm posting this under "photography" sin... (show quote)


GROWING OLD IS MANDATORY,
GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL!

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