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Apr 25, 2013 04:59:34   #
Croce Loc: Earth
 
Wabbit, calm that mouse down before it pees its diaper. lol Cudakite said, "this is like watching someone slowly devolve into the meaningless goo of hallucinatory self-adulation". A statement of supreme elegance for its brevity, simplicity and accuracy.

Peter, apparently you feel there are some inconsistencies in my statements above. I regret them but feel they are meaningless because they are substantively accurate enough. The vast majority of your career was spent at Kashmere. You probably retired later than I thought. And most likely you probably found another assignment after they did not pick up your ticket prior to closing that hell hole of underachievement.

You are correct Peter on how you should be judged but you are so reluctant to believe that, that is exactly how you are judged here. What invites contention is evidenced by your absolutely pathetic, bold face typed for empahasis, last statement. Wabbit busted his balls over it. Cudakite, brilliantly and succinctly analyzed it and I, Peter, I felt so pathetic for you that I wished I could hug you and gently shake you to your senses. Unlike Wabbit, I damned near cried.

Please Peter, I beg of you, save what paltry amount of dignity you may still have left and try to find something more rewarding than living with the pitiful, ignominious, louche reputation you so diligently and consistently strive to earn here. It can't get better because you become more combatively bitter, hallucinatory and deeper into imagineations of your superior brilliance manifested in increasingly defensive postures, day by day.

You mentioned that you were, this very day, asked to become a ghost writer for someone in your PM to me today. Do it Peter, I believe you might quite well find happiness there. You have great command of our language (the only thing American which seems to please you) and a vividly imaginative mind. Wonderful assets to someone hired to rescue the mundane and elevate it to fancy. Do it Peter, you may find peace in so doing. Free yourself of this oppressive environment where you have dashed all credibility you may have ever had and find peace. I wish you well.

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Apr 25, 2013 07:32:26   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
Croce wrote:
Wabbit, calm that mouse down before it pees its diaper. lol Cudakite said, "this is like watching someone slowly devolve into the meaningless goo of hallucinatory self-adulation". A statement of supreme elegance for its brevity, simplicity and accuracy.

Peter, apparently you feel there are some inconsistencies in my statements above. I regret them but feel they are meaningless because they are substantively accurate enough. The vast majority of your career was spent at Kashmere. You probably retired later than I thought. And most likely you probably found another assignment after they did not pick up your ticket prior to closing that hell hole of underachievement.

You are correct Peter on how you should be judged but you are so reluctant to believe that, that is exactly how you are judged here. What invites contention is evidenced by your absolutely pathetic, bold face typed for empahasis, last statement. Wabbit busted his balls over it. Cudakite, brilliantly and succinctly analyzed it and I, Peter, I felt so pathetic for you that I wished I could hug you and gently shake you to your senses. Unlike Wabbit, I damned near cried.

Please Peter, I beg of you, save what paltry amount of dignity you may still have left and try to find something more rewarding than living with the pitiful, ignominious, louche reputation you so diligently and consistently strive to earn here. It can't get better because you become more combatively bitter, hallucinatory and deeper into imagineations of your superior brilliance manifested in increasingly defensive postures, day by day.

You mentioned that you were, this very day, asked to become a ghost writer for someone in your PM to me today. Do it Peter, I believe you might quite well find happiness there. You have great command of our language (the only thing American which seems to please you) and a vividly imaginative mind. Wonderful assets to someone hired to rescue the mundane and elevate it to fancy. Do it Peter, you may find peace in so doing. Free yourself of this oppressive environment where you have dashed all credibility you may have ever had and find peace. I wish you well.
Wabbit, calm that mouse down before it pees its di... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... I, I, I can't get the words out right doc .....

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Aug 27, 2013 13:37:27   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
Croce wrote:
Peter Nagy taught High School English in a Houston suburb for 30 years. It is apparent that he considers himself a high intellect. Although he is quick to point out that he was recognized as a very good teacher, I believe he is sadly unrequited in the fact that he never gained universal recognition as an intellect but rather was faced with retiring as just another poor public school teacher. One Destined not to live in a castle but rather in a working class bungalow in front of which he parks his decade old automobile. Although he possesses an admirable vocabulary his thought processes are those of an unfulfilled and bitter man as is also depicted in his haughty looking avatar, an image of power and superiority only imagined and dreamed of in his mind. He plies the avenues of our forum in search of minions. Minions who of course have not materialized for him. He is to be pitied rather than scorned.
Quod petis hic est Petro quaerere elit.
Peter Nagy taught High School English in a Houston... (show quote)



A poor public school teacher? Make up your mind. On other posts you decry the "hefty" pensions they are paid. Which is it? Oh never mind; truth in your warped mind is as fluid as play dough.

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Aug 27, 2013 13:53:48   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
PNagy wrote:
A poor public school teacher? Make up your mind. On other posts you decry the "hefty" pensions they are paid. Which is it? Oh never mind; truth in your warped mind is as fluid as play dough.


Oh Yea? speakin bout warped minds ..... you know the drill Doc .....

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Aug 28, 2013 00:34:51   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
Croce: I would like to correct a couple of minor inaccuracies which paint my picture of Peter Nagy in an unfair light.

#1 He never taught English I have found out -Only History- He taught HS history during his entire teaching career.

Nagy: Teaching English or teaching history is a minor difference? To a muddied mind, yes.

Croce: The last 20 years at Kashmere HS IN Houston - not in a Houston suburb but IN Houston. I did not mean to "lie" about that Peter. It was a mistake.

Nagy: My last 20 years of teaching were not at Kashmere H.S. Your information appears to have come from one of your rightist friends who betrayed my confidence shared in a few PMs we exchanged, but either he failed to understand what I wrote him, or you bungled the gossip

Croce: 3. It is as Peter states, not necessary for him to park in the street. He indeed has a driveway and garage. Peter lives in a $125,000 36 year old home. It IS in a Houston suburb. (Peter if you would like the exact address and location because you are lost I would be happy to furnish it for you) I did not mean to imply he was impoverished only that he is, like most of us, kind of average.

Nagy: Were you able to find out how much I actually paid for the house? Can you calculate what it is worth now after I have extensively remodeled it? Would it make me average to have written a check for the house, instead of paying off a note for 30 years, if I was able to do that?

Is ownership of real property a measure of one's worth, or his credibility as an analyst of current history and public affairs? Is Bill Gates, therefore, more intelligent and credible an analyst than Noam Chomsky? What if my wife and I also own other property, would that make me more credible? How much property would I have to own? Would I be more credible if I owned vacation property in an expensive resort area in Florida? How about an entire block in East Texas? Am I making this up?

How much must one own and make to be a credible source? Would I have any credibility at $60,000 a year? What if my income is actually more than twice that, would I have some credibility then, or only vis a vis those who made less?

The implication that one's material wealth is a determining factor in the quality of one's assessment of social, political, or economic developments is about as vapid as your idea that anyone who has not managed the number of people you say you have has no worth. On the other hand, if you insist on making public my material success or failure, please do better than the superficial internet scan you have performed mixed with some erroneous gossip you picked up from another UHH member.

Croce: 4. His contract was not renewed during his last year due to his school closing for poor performance...

Nagy: No school where I taught closed for poor performance. Kashmere is still open today.

Croce: Peter however was not graded poor but excellent as a teacher. He has stated that his Principal thought very highly of him. Kashmere is (was) a small school of slightly over 500 students. In 2007 Johns Hopkins University referred to Kashmere as a "Dropout Factory."

Nagy: The number graduating in every class at Kashmere and other schools in economically depressed areas is far lower than the size of that class in its ninth grade year. Croce missed his opportunity to blame the teachers for that. Any school district whose administration and board of directors insist that academic failure is the fault of teachers could test the idea by switching the faculty of one of the poorly performing school with teachers from a school of comparable size that did well.

The validity of the charge would be proved if and only if the results of the two schools began to reverse. Even then, the greatest cause of the gap in the scores would be the upper administration and school board whose policies placed the inferior teachers and administrators into the low-income minority areas. The concomitant racism inherent in such hiring practices would necessitate their summary dismissal.

Croce: The question for you UHH'ers however, is, would YOU like to have HIM "teaching" your children the history of the the our country and the villainous founders, who he so seems to despise?????

Nagy: Anyone who requires history teachers to glorify those who enslaved one large group of people and committed unbridled genocide against another would definitely not want Peter Nagy to teach them. No problem, I currently teach as a private chess coach.

Croce: Hope this satisfies you as my setting my "lies" about you straight Peter. If you would like further or more specific information on the above Peter, I can I have it at my fingertips.

Nagy: Don't bother: even your corrected information remains badly flawed, albeit not nearly so much as your farcical idea of what qualifies a person as a credible source in UHH debates. The speck in the rear-view mirror is becoming smaller and smaller, and his shrill cries are fading and manifesting with a doppler shift to lower frequencies. Cheers, good brother. I'll look for you whenever I'm ever back this way.

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Aug 28, 2013 07:58:47   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
PNagy wrote:
Croce: I would like to correct a couple of minor inaccuracies which paint my picture of Peter Nagy in an unfair light.

#1 He never taught English I have found out -Only History- He taught HS history during his entire teaching career.

Nagy: Teaching English or teaching history is a minor difference? To a muddied mind, yes.

Croce: The last 20 years at Kashmere HS IN Houston - not in a Houston suburb but IN Houston. I did not mean to "lie" about that Peter. It was a mistake.

Nagy: My last 20 years of teaching were not at Kashmere H.S. Your information appears to have come from one of your rightist friends who betrayed my confidence shared in a few PMs we exchanged, but either he failed to understand what I wrote him, or you bungled the gossip

Croce: 3. It is as Peter states, not necessary for him to park in the street. He indeed has a driveway and garage. Peter lives in a $125,000 36 year old home. It IS in a Houston suburb. (Peter if you would like the exact address and location because you are lost I would be happy to furnish it for you) I did not mean to imply he was impoverished only that he is, like most of us, kind of average.

Nagy: Were you able to find out how much I actually paid for the house? Can you calculate what it is worth now after I have extensively remodeled it? Would it make me average to have written a check for the house, instead of paying off a note for 30 years, if I was able to do that?

Is ownership of real property a measure of one's worth, or his credibility as an analyst of current history and public affairs? Is Bill Gates, therefore, more intelligent and credible an analyst than Noam Chomsky? What if my wife and I also own other property, would that make me more credible? How much property would I have to own? Would I be more credible if I owned vacation property in an expensive resort area in Florida? How about an entire block in East Texas? Am I making this up?

How much must one own and make to be a credible source? Would I have any credibility at $60,000 a year? What if my income is actually more than twice that, would I have some credibility then, or only vis a vis those who made less?

The implication that one's material wealth is a determining factor in the quality of one's assessment of social, political, or economic developments is about as vapid as your idea that anyone who has not managed the number of people you say you have has no worth. On the other hand, if you insist on making public my material success or failure, please do better than the superficial internet scan you have performed mixed with some erroneous gossip you picked up from another UHH member.

Croce: 4. His contract was not renewed during his last year due to his school closing for poor performance...

Nagy: No school where I taught closed for poor performance. Kashmere is still open today.

Croce: Peter however was not graded poor but excellent as a teacher. He has stated that his Principal thought very highly of him. Kashmere is (was) a small school of slightly over 500 students. In 2007 Johns Hopkins University referred to Kashmere as a "Dropout Factory."

Nagy: The number graduating in every class at Kashmere and other schools in economically depressed areas is far lower than the size of that class in its ninth grade year. Croce missed his opportunity to blame the teachers for that. Any school district whose administration and board of directors insist that academic failure is the fault of teachers could test the idea by switching the faculty of one of the poorly performing school with teachers from a school of comparable size that did well.

The validity of the charge would be proved if and only if the results of the two schools began to reverse. Even then, the greatest cause of the gap in the scores would be the upper administration and school board whose policies placed the inferior teachers and administrators into the low-income minority areas. The concomitant racism inherent in such hiring practices would necessitate their summary dismissal.

Croce: The question for you UHH'ers however, is, would YOU like to have HIM "teaching" your children the history of the the our country and the villainous founders, who he so seems to despise?????

Nagy: Anyone who requires history teachers to glorify those who enslaved one large group of people and committed unbridled genocide against another would definitely not want Peter Nagy to teach them. No problem, I currently teach as a private chess coach.

Croce: Hope this satisfies you as my setting my "lies" about you straight Peter. If you would like further or more specific information on the above Peter, I can I have it at my fingertips.

Nagy: Don't bother: even your corrected information remains badly flawed, albeit not nearly so much as your farcical idea of what qualifies a person as a credible source in UHH debates. The speck in the rear-view mirror is becoming smaller and smaller, and his shrill cries are fading and manifesting with a doppler shift to lower frequencies. Cheers, good brother. I'll look for you whenever I'm ever back this way.
Croce: I would like to correct a couple of minor i... (show quote)


Wow Doc ..... speakin bout bungling gosip ..... so the history teacher gets caught again ..... ha,ha,ha,ha ..... ya killin me Doc ..... chess coach, ha,ha,ha,ha, stop, ya aught to be in stand up ..... ha,ha,ha,ha,

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Aug 28, 2013 08:36:42   #
Bruce M. Loc: Longueuil, Quebec, CANADA
 
Am I racist, yes, I think so. Our countries need to adopt (ASAP) a policy wherin ANY Muslim coming to or already in our countries must state in writig that they have no animosity toward ANY other religeon and that INFIDELS do not exist. If they are UnWilling, back they go. What President or Prime Minister has the BALLS !?

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Aug 28, 2013 10:35:19   #
Croce Loc: Earth
 
Wabbit wrote:
Wow Doc ..... speakin bout bungling gosip ..... so the history teacher gets caught again ..... ha,ha,ha,ha ..... ya killin me Doc ..... chess coach, ha,ha,ha,ha, stop, ya aught to be in stand up ..... ha,ha,ha,ha,


Stop Wabbit, Stop. Stop damn it, you are causing me to pee my pants! hahahahahahahahah.

I thnk PN has lost it. He is a real glutton for punishment and is more than willing to contribute heavily to that punishment. Look at the top of this page and you will see my post is dated Apr. 25th.
PN is agrubbing through old post to beat himself up with. Oh well, such are the foibles of dementia I guess.

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Aug 28, 2013 13:39:43   #
cudakite Loc: San Antonio
 
Omg! It takes peter four months to craft a reply so ineffectual as to be very nearly stupefying. I find my position toward him shifting from one of playful antagonism to outright and genuine pity. Peter, if you read this, please consider seeking meaningful therapy. This is me reaching out to you as best I know now. You are clearly a smart guy, choose not to remain in this state of frustration and anger until your life ends. That course guarantees the sum of your existence to be utterly without point and devoid of value. It is possible to embrace a future wherein lives joy and real peace.... truly.

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Aug 28, 2013 13:50:03   #
cudakite Loc: San Antonio
 
Bruce M. wrote:
Am I racist, yes, I think so. Our countries need to adopt (ASAP) a policy wherin ANY Muslim coming to or already in our countries must state in writig that they have no animosity toward ANY other religeon and that INFIDELS do not exist. If they are UnWilling, back they go. What President or Prime Minister has the BALLS !?


Swell idea. If only we had a Teddy Roosevelt or a Winston Churchill. :thumbup:

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Aug 28, 2013 15:18:44   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
cudakite wrote:
Swell idea. If only we had a Teddy Roosevelt or a Winston Churchill. :thumbup:


Where is Lincoln when we need him. He could free the white people from this oppression.

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Aug 28, 2013 20:34:49   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
TrainNut wrote:
Where is Lincoln when we need him. He could free the white people from this oppression.


We will never be free. We're slaves of a corrupt government as long as we are productive citizens and pay our taxes.
:shock:

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Jan 5, 2020 16:49:02   #
maxjamage
 
Croce wrote:
Peter Nagy taught High School English in a Houston suburb for 30 years. It is apparent that he considers himself a high intellect. Although he is quick to point out that he was recognized as a very good teacher, I believe he is sadly unrequited in the fact that he never gained universal recognition as an intellect but rather was faced with retiring as just another poor public school teacher. One Destined not to live in a castle but rather in a working class bungalow in front of which he parks his decade old automobile. Although he possesses an admirable vocabulary his thought processes are those of an unfulfilled and bitter man as is also depicted in his haughty looking avatar, an image of power and superiority only imagined and dreamed of in his mind. He plies the avenues of our forum in search of minions. Minions who of course have not materialized for him. He is to be pitied rather than scorned.
Quod petis hic est Petro quaerere elit.
Peter Nagy taught High School English in a Houston... (show quote)


Lies! Deception! Peter Nagy is and will always be a proud americon, i simply do not understand the quarrel with this fine man. Slander!. Nagy not only lives in a castle but a castle of intellect you fool. Nagy please return my king <3

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Jan 5, 2020 18:37:09   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
It took you nine years to respond to the last post??????? Nagy is a very intelligent man. Misguided but intelligent. Some liberals are like that. Most are lacking intelligence though.

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Jan 5, 2020 19:35:33   #
D.E.Kells Loc: Central OHIO
 
Need a rope and an old oak tree.
We call that "JUSTICE!"

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