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Dec 24, 2019 06:46:31   #
rambler Loc: Masssachusetts
 
Nice explanation, CO!!

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Dec 24, 2019 07:18:14   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Wouldn't the cause be the angle of the light(s) to the camera lens for the non perfect circles?


That was my first guess. It's like shooting with a fisheye lens. Hold it perfectly level, and you get a near-normal picture. When you tilt it, you get extreme effects.

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Dec 24, 2019 07:37:43   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
cbtsam wrote:
I found myself going to shoot xmas lights with the latest 105mm 2.8 macro nikkor with VR, on my Nikon D850. As I'd last been shooting closeups, the lens showed the lights out of focus in the extreme, and in an interesting way. One of them is at

https://www.flickr.com/photos/samyaffespix/49264383318/in/dateposted/

Someone pointed out that, while the lights in the middle are nearly if not perfectly round, others are more ovoid. My question is why, and what might be done to assure that all the lights appeared (nearly) perfectly round?

(I tried to attach an image, but I guess that's another technique I haven't mastered yet.)
I found myself going to shoot xmas lights with the... (show quote)


I sorta like the pictures.
As far as posting to this site, go to; Create new topic. Then select one of the photography sections. On the bottom you will see choose file then you can download the pictures you want to post. Select store original and you are on your way.
Some people are very anal about where you should post pictures. Some of those more than likely told you not to buy the 850. How glad are you that you didn't pay them no mind??

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Dec 24, 2019 07:38:19   #
cochese
 
Find a review on the lens that tests the lens for coma. Lenstip does a great job at this but not sure if they have tested your lens. Coma is how the lens renders points of light across the field and can cause lights at tthe edges to appear ovoid rather than circular.

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Dec 24, 2019 07:40:45   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
Mine is intentional.

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Dec 24, 2019 07:51:52   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
cbtsam wrote:
I found myself going to shoot xmas lights with the latest 105mm 2.8 macro nikkor with VR, on my Nikon D850. As I'd last been shooting closeups, the lens showed the lights out of focus in the extreme, and in an interesting way. One of them is at

https://www.flickr.com/photos/samyaffespix/49264383318/in/dateposted/

Someone pointed out that, while the lights in the middle are nearly if not perfectly round, others are more ovoid. My question is why, and what might be done to assure that all the lights appeared (nearly) perfectly round?

(I tried to attach an image, but I guess that's another technique I haven't mastered yet.)
I found myself going to shoot xmas lights with the... (show quote)


Per your comment of how to attach an image. This should help:https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/help/how_to_post_a_picture.jsp
Feel free to PM me.
Mark

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Dec 24, 2019 08:26:21   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
cbtsam wrote:
I found myself going to shoot xmas lights with the latest 105mm 2.8 macro nikkor with VR, on my Nikon D850. As I'd last been shooting closeups, the lens showed the lights out of focus in the extreme, and in an interesting way. One of them is at

https://www.flickr.com/photos/samyaffespix/49264383318/in/dateposted/

Someone pointed out that, while the lights in the middle are nearly if not perfectly round, others are more ovoid. My question is why, and what might be done to assure that all the lights appeared (nearly) perfectly round?

(I tried to attach an image, but I guess that's another technique I haven't mastered yet.)
I found myself going to shoot xmas lights with the... (show quote)


They are shaped by the curvature of the glass of your lens.

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Dec 24, 2019 08:47:35   #
george19
 
[quote=Architect1776]Out of focus highlights are nearly ovals or cats eyes as you get closer to the edge. I know of no lens that readily comes to mind that this does not happen with.

First, really good question based on a real example.

Second, I don’t think this is a function of the particular lens (I believe this lens is still capable of focusing at infinity, and except for fisheye lenses, none with purposely designed distortion), but more likely the result from being out of focus.

Love the shot.

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Dec 24, 2019 08:51:28   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
I kinda like the difference in shapes. It gives the shot dimension. It looks almost 3D

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Dec 24, 2019 10:17:52   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
JD750 wrote:
Interesting. I took a similar "bokeh" shot with various shaped lights on the tree, and they were all pretty close to round in the image. Nothing like what I see in your shot.

I notice that in your shot the roundness is good in the middle of the frame, but tends to oblong near the right and left edges of the frame. This would seem to me to be due to the optics of the lens.


That is exactly what it is.

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Dec 24, 2019 11:16:12   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
cedymock wrote:
Was the shot hand held or on a tripod?
If on a tripod was the VR off?


Hand held, VR on.

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Dec 24, 2019 11:56:44   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
cbtsam wrote:
I found myself going to shoot xmas lights with the latest 105mm 2.8 macro nikkor with VR, on my Nikon D850. As I'd last been shooting closeups, the lens showed the lights out of focus in the extreme, and in an interesting way. One of them is at

https://www.flickr.com/photos/samyaffespix/49264383318/in/dateposted/

Someone pointed out that, while the lights in the middle are nearly if not perfectly round, others are more ovoid. My question is why, and what might be done to assure that all the lights appeared (nearly) perfectly round?

(I tried to attach an image, but I guess that's another technique I haven't mastered yet.)
I found myself going to shoot xmas lights with the... (show quote)


Almost makes me want to go out and buy a D850. Almost ...

Seriously though, it’s a beautiful image that I would definitely frame!

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Dec 24, 2019 15:03:04   #
CO
 
cochese wrote:
Find a review on the lens that tests the lens for coma. Lenstip does a great job at this but not sure if they have tested your lens. Coma is how the lens renders points of light across the field and can cause lights at tthe edges to appear ovoid rather than circular.


LensTip.com has tested that lens. It has almost zero coma.

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Dec 24, 2019 16:24:56   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
MoT wrote:
I think you created a wonderful piece of art. Maybe not what you where trying to achieve but nonetheless a piece that should be printed (Pearl type finish if you don't mind the suggestion) and put on the wall.It is a very festive work to me but could be something else for somebody else. Keep experimenting.


Thanks, MoT, for the kind words. Much appreciated.

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Dec 24, 2019 17:05:44   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
traderjohn wrote:
I sorta like the pictures.
As far as posting to this site, go to; Create new topic. Then select one of the photography sections. On the bottom you will see choose file then you can download the pictures you want to post. Select store original and you are on your way.
Some people are very anal about where you should post pictures. Some of those more than likely told you not to buy the 850. How glad are you that you didn't pay them no mind??


Thanks for the kind words on my images.

I sure thought I had done all of that to upload to this site directly, but it didn't work. Perhaps wrong format? I think I tried it with a .PSB and a .jpg.

I moved up from the 810 to the 850 about 18 months ago, primarily for the "Focus Shift" feature that sort of automates the taking of images for later focus stacking. Bought HeliconFocus, too, and then I just couldn't figure out all the measurements you have to specify in the camera, and what I got didn't come out of Helicon with everything in focus. Frustrated after several failed attempts, I gave up. Then, a few weeks ago I googled it again, and found accounts that, unlike those provided by Nikon and some others , actually gave me a starting point, and I've gotten at least one image that worked as I imagined it should from a stack of something like 9 images. Meanwhile, I like the huge sensor; among other things, it lets me back away from the small flowers I like to shoot, to get enough depth of field, and then I can crop without fear of losing too much quality. So, I guess that's my long-winded way of saying I'm pretty happy with the 850.

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