LR 6.14 stand alone software
Dec 17, 2019 13:34:05 #
This has probably been discussed but here goes. I am still using LR v.6.14 on my iMac with the latest Mojave MacOS. LR is listed as a small 64 bit program and so should work in the new Mac OS Catalina. However I discovered the installer on the program is only 32 bit so it will probably not work on Catalina if I have to reinstall LR. My Mac is of course backed up so if need be can I get LR from backup if something goes wrong? I am loathe to loose this stand alone version and go to a subscription. If I decide to go to a subscription I understand there are two versions of LR being "classic' and "cc". Which one is best. I do not want to keep my files on a cloud. What is the consensus of UHH? Thanks for any advice that can be offered.
Dec 17, 2019 13:36:33 #
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Dec 17, 2019 13:48:03 #
I just made the switch to the subscription service for the entire CC Suite for this very reason. I also had to make the switch for the Office Suite as I use more than just Photoshop and Lightroom in my business. Adobe had a great deal on Black Friday for the year it was "only" $360. Hopefully they will have a similar deal next year when it is time for me to renew. The cost of the subscription for the PS and LR package is very reasonable, if thats all that you require. If you are migrating to Catalina it is my understanding that you will need to make this change as 32 bit applications (your installer is an application) will not function in Catalina. As to whether Lightroom CC or Lightroom Classic? I suspect you would want Classic as it will function like you expect it to. With CC your photos will live on the cloud. Hope this helps.
Dec 17, 2019 13:52:14 #
You'd be well-served to investigate and clarify, for yourself, the technical details of several of the issues you've asked about in your post. First, the 'cloud storage' can be used in multiple ways that are entirely at your discretion. However, the software and particularly the basic 20GB level of cloud storage provided in the basic $10/mth subscription, are not intended for 'storing' your images in the cloud. Rather, this 20GB area is a temporary transfer area to facilitate wireless transfer of images from your mobile LR CC equipment to your long-term desktop LR 'Classic' catalog.
Your LR Classic catalog resides local to your full-function desktop machine, both when using the subscription software as well as your current standalone version. The executable software also installs and resides there locally to your desktop's hardrive.
I can't speak to whether the 32-bit 'installer' software will be / has been broken by Apple. I think I've seen comments that say the installer is not disabled by the new Mac OS. You can wait for that event / need to confirm. Even if Apple did disable new LR6 installs, you don't have to worry about that event until it should occur. At some future point, whether 1-week, 6-months, 2-years, never, only at that point of need will you need to re-evaluate if you want to begin an Adobe subscription. In the meantime, simply assure your LRCAT file, your LR configuration and preset files, and the original image files are regularly and reliably backed-up for disaster recovery and / or transfer to new equipment.
Finally, LRCC and LR Classic are not either / or installations. When you subscribe, you can install and use both, along with PhotoShop. The Classic software is intended for your desktop computer (or full-function laptop) where PS is also installed. The LRCC is intended for your mobile / tablet device for working in the field. That 'temp cloud transfer' area is intended for wireless transfer of preliminary edits from LRCC back to the main Classic catalog. You might share edits between Classic to LRCC, again at most via a 20GB transfer.
Your LR Classic catalog resides local to your full-function desktop machine, both when using the subscription software as well as your current standalone version. The executable software also installs and resides there locally to your desktop's hardrive.
I can't speak to whether the 32-bit 'installer' software will be / has been broken by Apple. I think I've seen comments that say the installer is not disabled by the new Mac OS. You can wait for that event / need to confirm. Even if Apple did disable new LR6 installs, you don't have to worry about that event until it should occur. At some future point, whether 1-week, 6-months, 2-years, never, only at that point of need will you need to re-evaluate if you want to begin an Adobe subscription. In the meantime, simply assure your LRCAT file, your LR configuration and preset files, and the original image files are regularly and reliably backed-up for disaster recovery and / or transfer to new equipment.
Finally, LRCC and LR Classic are not either / or installations. When you subscribe, you can install and use both, along with PhotoShop. The Classic software is intended for your desktop computer (or full-function laptop) where PS is also installed. The LRCC is intended for your mobile / tablet device for working in the field. That 'temp cloud transfer' area is intended for wireless transfer of preliminary edits from LRCC back to the main Classic catalog. You might share edits between Classic to LRCC, again at most via a 20GB transfer.
Dec 17, 2019 14:26:05 #
A perfect clarification.
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Dec 18, 2019 08:38:27 #
mizzee
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LR Classic. I don’t mind the $10 subscription to keep the programs current. For example, I just bought a new camera that uses a different RAW then the same but earlier model. It was nice to have an updated version of LR that accepted the new RAW. I don’t use the cloud either, I use anexternal hard drive.
Dec 18, 2019 11:00:34 #
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I agree completely on the cloud use. I use that as my "working space" I have a collection in LR classic that's synced. Anything I'm actively working on is in that collection. I can edit on my desktop or laptop using either classic or CC, or I can edit on my iPad or even iPhone. If I'm traveling or just out and want to post something online, I can upload the file to my phone, make any simple edits and post online. Then when I get home if I want I can go into LR Classic and continue editing the same image, maybe fine tune it and profile it for printing. When I'm done editing and want to clear space in the cloud I just go itno LR Classic and move it to an unsynced collection.
Dec 18, 2019 15:14:43 #
MoT wrote:
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LR 6.14 = DEAD END, already unsupported by Adobe. I have yet to hear of anyone successfully using it with MacOS Catalina.
The Adobe Photography Plan comes in two flavors. The less expensive one ($9.99 monthly) includes Photoshop CC 2020, Lightroom CLASSIC CC (the most similar to version 6.14), Lightroom CC (formerly Lightroom Mobile... works on computers, phones, and tablets and shares files through Adobe Cloud), Adobe Bridge 2020, Adobe Camera Raw (used by Photoshop, both Lightrooms, and Bridge), and some other goodies. It also includes a wee bit of cloud storage on Adobe Cloud. You can buy more, but you don't have to.
All the applications are downloaded onto, installed on, and run on your hardware. Lightroom CC can share files with three types of devices, as mentioned. Lightroom Classic *can* put files in the cloud, but I, and most others using it, keep all our files on local drives. I don't use Adobe Cloud for anything. It's just not my thing — yet.
Your computer has to connect with Adobe over an Internet connection once a month (on the monthly plan) or once a year (on the annual plan). That is to check for updates, and for them to be sure your subscription is still paid for. Your subscription includes all upgrades and updates and bug fixes for the life of your subscription. That way, your software is always updated for the latest releases of MacOS and Windows. (There is sometimes a little lag in *stability*, so I always wait a few months after MacOS updates to install the latest OS version on my computer. For example, the forthcoming Catalina 10.15.3 looks like it might belong on my iMac. (Catalina 10.15.2 is current.)
If you suspend your subscription, you can download anything you put on Adobe Cloud. You still have access to all your files. You just cannot make any changes to them with Adobe Apps. If, later, you resubscribe, you pick up where you left off as if nothing happened.
As a pro-level user, I need Lightroom Classic, Photoshop, and to a lesser extent, Bridge. I could care less about the current Lightroom CC, although that could change in the future as it matures.
Lightroom Classic is a powerful workflow tool. It integrates well with Photoshop and other imaging applications (Nik Plug-ins and Mac Graphic Converter 11, in my case).
About 80% of my post-processing is cull editing, rating, organizing, filing, parametric editing (i.e.; ACR processing of raw files), printing, exporting, and web posting. That all happens from Lightroom Classic, which for me, is a hub.
I do quite a lot of conversions of negatives to positives, using digital camera raw files and the non-destructive Negative Lab Pro plugin, which runs inside Lightroom and is worth its $99 price many times over.
Photoshop handles layers, text, transparency, bitmap editing, CMYK color separations, and has a wide array of other imaging tools not present in Lightroom Classic. I use it sparingly, when I really need it.
My finished (rendered) images are cataloged separately in Bridge.
Dec 18, 2019 21:41:19 #
Thank you for your detailed explanation. Though I do not do photography as profession I have sold some images from time to time but mainly am engaged for artistic expression. I am a retired scientist but have not and do not get techie since I am more involved for the creative drive. Lightroom has provided me with 99% of what I needed to develop my RAW files with a little help from Photoshop Elements. I am probably old school as I try to capture what I want by using the camera and usually available light. Though, I have read that Ansel Adams often reprinted negatives to achieve desired results.
Again, thank you for your time.
Again, thank you for your time.
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