wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

I like the second better. It give more substance to the picture. Nothing wrong with either picture on its own.

MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY

Thanks for looking and your opinion.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

You are definitely one evil minded man to mention that to us looking at all the cold and snow! LOL

MRHooker2u Loc: Kingston, WA

When I first got serious about photography and learned about PP I was dubious about enhancing my photos...until I was going through an art course and discovered the preeminent American artist, Normal Rockwell, would photograph different subjects and merge them into his finished painting. PP at its finest. The more I learn about PP the easier it is to discern the good (subtle) from the bad (overcooked). On a side note my wife states that all women look better with a little (emphasis added) makeup. There is the subtle makeup and the overcooked makeup.

papaluv4gd Loc: durham,ct

MMC,It's nice. lots of clarity. only problem is,, it was a very foggy early morning. The fog bank was moving along the ground changing the entire scene as I stood their talking pictures. I have at least 6 more shots taken in a time frame of 6-7 min. All have a noticably different tonal qualities to them. Although I do appreciate your working with my shot, and IT IS very nicely done, there was no clarity due to the heavy fog moving in. I truely like what you did, but you just made my point.

mwsilvers just accused me of having NO appreciation for art. If you had read my original posting,as well as my other responses, you would not come to that conclusion. Therefore ,I would have to accuse you of reading my post with a preconceived notion that I am anti editing, which is completely untrue.

In a nutshell, my original posting was a simple pondering of what we are subject to in the world of visuals. Simply put, is what we see really what we are seeing, or has it been "doctored" to elisit a certain viseral response.

I have done a bit of in camera editing by changing the white balance and using some of the in camera tools olympus puts in there.

I have taken a blazing sunset, and turned it into a more monogaphic scene by stretching the white balance. REAL editing? not hardly,BUT editing non the less. SO I do appreciate art. Actualy I went to college to major in art. Couldn't afford to finish college, so I moved on with life.

Making claims that I am anti art,or anti editing is childish at best, seeing that you know nothing of my personal backround. AGAIN,stop reading, and start photographing. Much more fun. One more point, the end of a journey is not always the climax. Often it is the adventures along the way that make for memorable moments. So it is with my photography. I get real joy in the act of searching out things or places to photograph and sometimes the aventure accociated with going out and SEEING. Sometimes that is all it is, just seeing.

A blessed Christmas to all. And remember the REASON for the season.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

I can only go by the words you used and how you expressed yourself in the post I quoted. If what you wrote is not an accurate reflection of your beliefs, perhaps you should phrase things more carefully.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

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papaluv4gd Loc: durham,ct

Duane klipping... enough. You have completely missed what my posting was all about .. NEVER did I say or even hint at being anti edting. I simply used the hog as a base from which to offer my obsevations of pretty much all of what we are presented with as far as visuals is concerned.

We have all heard the term "photoshopped". Refering to the fact that WITH photo editing software,one can no longer look at almost any visual media and be certain that what we see is indeed a trueism, or a software manipulated rendering. That is in itself neither good nor bad, it just IS.
Sometimes I just ponder my navel, and my mind wanders off . These ponderings are just that...ponderings, not condemnations of anyones artistic endeavers. ONE LAST TIME..I AM NOT,ANTI EDITING. People.....stop reading too much into this. It was just a simple observation on my part. THis has gotten ...WAYYY.. out of control. KINDA fun though to see so many reactions. Never thought some would turn into condemnations. WHEW.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

RAW, Processed, Edited, Manipulated;

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-619848-1.html

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Deja vu all over again

MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY

Thanks for looking my post and your comments.

singleshot Loc: Georgia

You are certainly not alone in your convictions. I too often wonder if I'm seeing a photograph or a computer generated image. There are certain individuals on this forum that seem to have more than the usual depth of knowledge of their equipment and its capabilities, as well as all the artistic sensitivities required to reproduce a scene without all the computer gimmicks but in reading their post it seems that some advocate a quick snap and head for the computer. Having said this let me add,"if that's what floats your boat, have at it".

artBob Loc: Near Chicago

Good point. The ultimate concern about a photograph is whether or not it expresses a truth with excellent Form (color, shape,edge, texture, light, and, especially, composition). How you get there does not matter, but those with training, experience, and a command of their tools are much more likely to have a shot at the ultimate.