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Nov 21, 2019 23:55:26 #
Rose42 wrote:
Yeah he struck a nerve all right.
Texcaster is harmless. Basically just an old snowflake.
Nov 22, 2019 07:10:25 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Texcaster wrote:
You self-absorbed po-faced pious dingbat. So eager to cast stones without comprehending.
You imagine ... for even a moment ... that I am all for living in a world of self-aware super machines?
I am only too well aware of the implications of AI. That's why I brought it up in a conversation about 'creation'.
You imagine ... for even a moment ... that I am all for living in a world of self-aware super machines?
I am only too well aware of the implications of AI. That's why I brought it up in a conversation about 'creation'.
In your risible dystopian night terrors ... were these AI warriors not created?
Nov 22, 2019 07:13:02 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Texcaster wrote:
Is this a 'happy clapper' going all Christian Soldier on us?
Quit telling us to 'repent' all the time, won't be no trouble that way.
Quit telling us to 'repent' all the time, won't be no trouble that way.
No, its someone who won't back down to a troll such as yourself.
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Nov 22, 2019 07:14:03 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Texcaster wrote:
There is no belief involved. The laws of averages and probabilities makes the singularity almost a foregone conclusion.
Thats precious being that you have no actual comprehension of the combined meanings of those words.
Nov 22, 2019 07:29:45 #
chippy65
Loc: Cambridge
Quick , honest question,with an honest response ?! ...........Compare and contrast Evolution and Creationism..........Cards on the table !!
As a science based evolutionist I believe that the "Big Bang" took place approx 14 billion years ago, and that from these beginnings the earth formed
approx 4.5 billion years ago, after a long period of cooling life began to evolve with fragmentary evidence left in the geological record.
Creationism and the story of Genesis and the Garden of Eden, which is a lovely story, took place when? How many years ago? How old does that make our Earth?
As a science based evolutionist I believe that the "Big Bang" took place approx 14 billion years ago, and that from these beginnings the earth formed
approx 4.5 billion years ago, after a long period of cooling life began to evolve with fragmentary evidence left in the geological record.
Creationism and the story of Genesis and the Garden of Eden, which is a lovely story, took place when? How many years ago? How old does that make our Earth?
Nov 22, 2019 08:07:17 #
LWW wrote:
No, its someone who won't back down to a troll such as yourself.
My word! The wrasslin' Professor and his Jim Jordan fellow travelers all trying to get in good with poor old Mr Soba, under siege by the Agnostics and the non-believers.
Nov 22, 2019 08:07:54 #
LWW wrote:
Thats precious being that you have no actual comprehension of the combined meanings of those words.
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Nov 22, 2019 08:18:47 #
For all the atheists I pray you have a change of heart before your dying breath
Nov 22, 2019 08:30:44 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
chippy65 wrote:
Quick , honest question,with an honest response ?!... (show quote)
Got it ... you believe yourself to be a bot.
Now, you obviously have a stiffie towards the Christian faith. Thats your right, just have the testicular/ovarian fortitude to admit it.
Next, the universe probably isn't 14,000,000,000 years old and it probably isn't 6,000 years old either ... and it doesn't matter.
The issue is whether the universe is one of determinism or one of free will.
You actually have science on your side to a point as science in many ways dictates that the universe is a determinist one as the neutrinos passing through both of us were set in motion at the moment of Creation. Back to us all being bots as free will is wholly incompatible with a determinist universe.
The alternative ... and science is about to slay the determinist myth.
Quantum theory dictates that there are always two or more possible outcomes ... no determinism ... and that actions/choices and/or observations made by consciousness are what determines the outcomes and causes the reality to solidify.
Taking that to it's logical conclusion, at the moment of creation the universe both did and didn't exist until an action/choice/observation by intelligence occurred.
This demonstrates that on the other side of the singularity lies something and that something cannot possibly have been a part of this universe as time/space/energy/matter did not yet exist.
Please look up the definition of supernatural, and the BB fits it.
Now, consciousness is obviously the fly in the ointment of determinism.
We see meteors, planets, galaxies, comets all move with incredible precision yet I haven't decided if I want another cup of coffee.
The meteors, planets, galaxies, comets cannot change their paths of their own free will because they have none. I can, because I have free will.
Now, what exempted me from determinism? What consciousness observed the BB?
Those are the philosophical questions that hang on faith because, as Hawking said, what lies on the other side of the singularity is both unknown and unknowable to science.
That something lies beyond it that caused the BB is undeniable, except by fools.
Nov 22, 2019 09:01:25 #
chippy65
Loc: Cambridge
LWW wrote:
Got it ... you believe yourself to be a bot. br b... (show quote)
What a load of codswallop and waffle....I put my cards on the table..............you went and played at another game altogether.
Nov 22, 2019 09:17:24 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
chippy65 wrote:
What a load of codswallop and waffle....I put my cards on the table..............you went and played at another game altogether.
That's what I would expect a science denier to say.
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Nov 22, 2019 09:20:27 #
chippy65
Loc: Cambridge
I did as you suggested and asked Google for a definition of " Supernatural " .........it came back to me.........and I quote......!!
" Unable to be explained by science or the laws of Nature : of, relating to, or seeming to come from magic, a god etc "
That seems to also fit quite closely to a definition of "Superstition"
" Unable to be explained by science or the laws of Nature : of, relating to, or seeming to come from magic, a god etc "
That seems to also fit quite closely to a definition of "Superstition"
Nov 22, 2019 09:30:59 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
chippy65 wrote:
I did as you suggested and asked Google for a definition of " Supernatural " .........it came back to me.........and I quote......!!
" Unable to be explained by science or the laws of Nature : of, relating to, or seeming to come from magic, a god etc "
That seems to also fit quite closely to a definition of "Superstition"
" Unable to be explained by science or the laws of Nature : of, relating to, or seeming to come from magic, a god etc "
That seems to also fit quite closely to a definition of "Superstition"
And the BB cannot be explained by science or the laws of nature ... thanks for getting it.
Another definition is:
"1 : of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supernatural
The definition of superstition is quite different:
": a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation"
Nov 22, 2019 09:36:03 #
chippy65 wrote:
Quick , honest question,with an honest response ?!... (show quote)
Quick, honest question. Since you are an enlightened expert on evolution, why don’t you have the stones to answer the question I asked you earlier? Cat got your tongue, or can’t answer it?
Nov 22, 2019 09:37:49 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
cwp3420 wrote:
Quick, honest question. Since you are an enlightened expert on evolution, why don’t you have the stones to answer the question I asked you earlier? Cat got your tongue, or can’t answer it?
Modern Darwinists and Charles Darwin are certainly not in agreement.
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