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Oct 11, 2019 09:46:59   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
larkahn wrote:
The original A6000 (still popular) as well as the A6300, A6400, and the new A6100 do not have IBIS.


I knew that some Sony full frame mirrorless cameras had IBIS, but I wasn't sure about the a6000 series. However, they are all very good crop sensor mirrorless cameras. Thanks for that information. I have a friend who owns an a6000.

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Oct 11, 2019 10:09:03   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"They couldn't match the AF performance of my D500."

Could take some time before they do. I am only familiar with Olympus and till now their best AF performer came in the form of a OM-1 Mk II. Nothing spectacular but pretty good compared with cameras of the past. I cannot make any comments on their new camera, OM-1X, because I have not used one. I cannot make comments either on Canon, Sony and Fuji mirrorless but others here who use those systems could offer valuable information.

Nikon and Canon came pretty late to the mirrorless arena. They were concentrating their efforts in making the same cameras we have known for years while Olympus and Panasonic started to make different cameras, this time without the mirror. I am sure that feature makes AF for moving subjects more difficult since phase detection sensors are needed. I am sure it will not be long before that is taken care of.

By the way, I have been very happy with my Olympus cameras.

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Oct 11, 2019 10:18:11   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
amfoto1 wrote:
It's going to be interesting to see how Canon responds.

They've had a lot of success with their M50 (top selling mirrorless in Japan)... but after five or six years still only have around 8 EF-M lenses available. Now they're busy designing and building RF-mount lenses... so I don't expect we'll see much new glass for the M-series cameras anytime soon.

Canon has treated their M-series more as "point n shoots with interchangeable lenses", than as serious amateur/pro grade cameras. I don't know if it's true, but have heard the M-series use a firmware more akin to what the Powershots use, rather than what the DSLRs use.

Now Canon will have three ditinct series of lenses running parallel, with limited interchangeability. The RF and EF-M mount cameras can use the EF and EF-S mount lenses, via an adapter. But RF-mount lenses can only be used on full frame RF-mount cameras. And EF-M lenses can only be used on APS-C format EF-M cameras. Three lens mounts... One with both full frame and APS-C variants, although the EF-S lenses use a modified EF mount designed to prevent their use on anything other than APS-C DSLRs. Another mount is full frame only. And yet another is APS-C only.

Nikon might have been slow to start... is just about the last manufacturer who didn't have an APS-C/DX format mirrorless and is way overdue introducing one.... but will only have essentially two lens series. Their Z-mount lenses will come in both FX and DX variants, but both will be usable on either full frame or DX Z-mount cameras. They'll still have both FX and DX F-mount lenses for their DSLRs, but (same as Canon EF/EF-S) those are adaptable for use on the Z-series cameras. Z-mount lenses are not adaptable for use on DSLRs.... Still, two lens mount systems, each with FX and DX variants.

If Canon introduces an APS-C camera with the RF-mount, that will be a death knell for the M-series and their lenses.



You mean "Z50", I'm sure.
It's going to be interesting to see how Canon resp... (show quote)


The difference with Canon is that all EFs and EF lenses are 100% compatible with the RF mount and Nikon F mount have a limited compatibility except for a few recent lenses.
Huge difference.

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Oct 11, 2019 10:18:48   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
mas24 wrote:
I knew that some Sony full frame mirrorless cameras had IBIS, but I wasn't sure about the a6000 series. However, they are all very good crop sensor mirrorless cameras. Thanks for that information. I have a friend who owns an a6000.


Of that Sony series (compact APS-C MILC) the ONLY one with IBIS is the a6500 (3-way kind) …

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Oct 11, 2019 11:03:39   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Chris T wrote:
Of that Sony series (compact APS-C MILC) the ONLY one with IBIS is the a6500 (3-way kind) …


User name "larkahn" mentioned all except the a6500. My friend wants to upgrade from the a6000 to the a6500. Perhaps that is why he wants it. IBIS.

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Oct 11, 2019 11:11:09   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
IDguy wrote:
It does because the shutter remains open on the Zs when changing lenses. And it is the reason they prohibit wet cleaning.


I can't believe Nikon has made a camera that the shutter stay's open when it's turned off. A lot of Sony cameras do that and it really does contribute to a dirty sensor.

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Oct 11, 2019 11:49:13   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This is the "smallest DX mirrorless camera." List price: $999.99.


Rather, "the smaller DX mirrorless"
Z50: 126.5 x 93.5 x 60mm, 450g
X-T30: 118.4 x 82.8 x 46.8mm, 383g
Not the smallest by a long shot!

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Oct 11, 2019 11:56:51   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
CatMarley wrote:
Rather, "the smaller DX mirrorless"
Z50: 126.5 x 93.5 x 60mm, 450g
X-T30: 118.4 x 82.8 x 46.8mm, 383g
Not the smallest by a long shot!


I think I have the smallest Nikon mirrorless camera so far, the Nikon1 j5.

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Oct 11, 2019 12:43:03   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Ched49 wrote:
I can't believe Nikon has made a camera that the shutter stay's open when it's turned off. A lot of Sony cameras do that and it really does contribute to a dirty sensor.


I didn’t believe it either. But it is true for the Z6 and Z7. Don’t know on the Z50.

Anyone figured out if it uses SD or XQD cards?

For sure the forces of darkness will blast it for one slot.

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Oct 11, 2019 13:21:08   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
IDguy wrote:


Anyone figured out if it uses SD or XQD cards?



Nikon did. SD

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-cameras/z-50.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-TechSpecs

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Oct 11, 2019 14:15:22   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 


Thanks!

I prefer the SD cards due to price. For me it is another reason to replace both my Z6 and D5600 with this.

Most of my lenses are VR anyway. And I already have the adapter I’ll need for them. But I’ll probably get their new 16-50 for lightest weight and smallest form factor. I already have AF-P 70-300 VR. Actually I have both the DX and FX versions. I’ll be selling the latter when I do this. And probably sell the Z 24-70.

Doubt this is what Nikon marketing had in mind...

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Oct 11, 2019 16:15:38   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
IDguy wrote:
Thanks!

I prefer the SD cards due to price. For me it is another reason to replace both my Z6 and D5600 with this.

Most of my lenses are VR anyway. And I already have the adapter I’ll need for them. But I’ll probably get their new 16-50 for lightest weight and smallest form factor. I already have AF-P 70-300 VR. Actually I have both the DX and FX versions. I’ll be selling the latter when I do this. And probably sell the Z 24-70.

Doubt this is what Nikon marketing had in mind...
Thanks! br br I prefer the SD cards due to price.... (show quote)


Right now I only have one camera that doesn't use XQD. I have two lenses for the Z6, 14-30 F/4.0 and 24-70 F/4.0. I am hoping for a 70-200 F/4.0 in a compact design to be able to fit the whole kit i a messenger bag. If that doesn't happen this new camera could be an alternative.

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Oct 11, 2019 22:14:24   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
CO wrote:
I hope they have improved the autofocus performance over the Z6 and Z7. They couldn't match the AF performance of my D500.


...my Z6 is fine and my go to walk around camera. Update helped, but I didn't want a sports shooter in the first place. You tried one lately?

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Oct 11, 2019 22:55:22   #
tomcat
 
CO wrote:
I hope they have improved the autofocus performance over the Z6 and Z7. They couldn't match the AF performance of my D500.


My Z6 is now blazing fast AF after I set a few of the menus to change the default settings. I have it set to: AF-C, CH+
Dynamic AF-area mode
Focus tracking lock-on to "quick" +1
half of the focus points
turned off the Active-D lighting
face and eye detection is off
Long exposure NR is off
High ISO NR is off

With these settings, anything that can slow down the processing is turned off. I believe that AF is as fast as my D500. I find that most of the focusing issues are me because I am 71 now and my reaction time has slowed down considerably. When I review images in-camera, I find that the red square that shows my focus target is sometimes not on the target, which means I am not physically keeping up with the moving subject. But when I am on-target, the images are sharp as a tack and much better than the D5 is in low-light.

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Oct 12, 2019 11:43:50   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Northrup’s view:

https://youtu.be/3SFq1_ImjzQ

Interesting belated advice to Nikon. I’d like to hear Nikon’s argument for using the Z mount. My present position (already have the F to Z adapter) somewhat different from his perspective. But yes, I’d have preferred it have the F mount.

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