What to call a camera in a phone (Page 5): How about a 'camera'... it's just a different type... Dik...

Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada

How about a 'camera'... it's just a different type...

Dik

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Fotomacher wrote:

There’s an owners’ manual???

iOS has a PDF manual you can download. The manual for iOS 12 was 904 pages in the Books app.

iPhones come with little “get started” pamphlets in the box.

Few people bother with the manual. Tap, double tap, drag, pinch, spread, etc. — gesturing is all you need to get started.

Reading The *Fine* Manual is helpful, though.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

xt2 wrote:

Who cares?

Cheers!

StanMac Loc: Tennessee

gvarner wrote:

Why not just call it a 1/3 camera or a 1/3-sensor camera since most of their sensors are about 1/3" in size? After all, we have 4/3 cameras (which doesn’t make any sense to me). Trying to get away from this cellphone or smartphone nonsense. Making a phone call is the least that those devices do.

I just call them a phomera.

Stan

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

Bill_de wrote:

After the first few pages of any thread we are 'mostly' in it for the entertainment value.

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Well put... and absolutely spot on... 👍

Bill_de Loc: US

StanMac wrote:

I just call them a phomera.

Stan

Yeah, but do they come when you call them that?

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chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon

At this point in photography, we will always have "phonees".

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

It’s a phone. It can do many other things but if you never use the camera feature it’s not a camera to you. Mostly things are computer systems. Digital cameras are certainly today. Computers with lenses...

gvarner wrote:

Why not just call it a 1/3 camera or a 1/3-sensor camera since most of their sensors are about 1/3" in size? After all, we have 4/3 cameras (which doesn’t make any sense to me). Trying to get away from this cellphone or smartphone nonsense. Making a phone call is the least that those devices do.

Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada

There are a couple of issues here... cellphone cameras are 'cameras' just a different type. My granddaughter sends me pictures from around the world (she's a manager of some kind, on a cruise ship). They are excellent, good exposure and excellent composition. With a 'real' camera, they could be better. I've offered to send her one, but it's too inconvenient and cumbersome. She's using an iPhone of some kind. I almost use my Sony a6000 exclusively because of the size... so many features into such a 'small' package.

I just picked up a Huawei P30 Pro which apparently has extremely good photographic features. I haven't taken a picture with it yet... just because I haven't gotten around to it. I'm still going over the instructions and youtube articles.

Some phone buffs will go on and pick up a real camera and start to take shots that may/should be better. This is a good thing, and it's an 'upside'.

The downside to phone cameras is that many people will not buy real cameras which has to hurt the industry. Good quality, higher end cameras will not be as affected... but, there would be a bit of an impact. The lower end will however be affected and these may 'disappear' over time with a loss to those wanting to get a 'starter' camera.

I'm not a pro... just an old 35mm buff that's slowly developing an interest in digital photography. I spent most of my earlier lifetime, however, living in my darkroom.

My $.02... ($.03 in Canada).

Dik

Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada

Notorious T.O.D. wrote:

It’s a phone. It can do many other things but if you never use the camera feature it’s not a camera to you. Mostly things are computer systems. Digital cameras are certainly today. Computers with lenses...

I would suggest that if you are using it to take pictures with, that it's a camera, too.

Dik

frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.

CHG_CANON wrote:

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Do you measure the beauty in the image or the size of the sensor?

Short and sweet, and to the point.

DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina

gvarner wrote:

Why not just call it a 1/3 camera or a 1/3-sensor camera since most of their sensors are about 1/3" in size? After all, we have 4/3 cameras (which doesn’t make any sense to me). Trying to get away from this cellphone or smartphone nonsense. Making a phone call is the least that those devices do.

How abt a “really smart electronic device that you can use to make phone calls, take and send photos, access the internet, send and receive email, check your global position, and a few others.” Me, I’d rather just call it a smart phone!

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

Bill_de wrote:

Interesting statistic that may put this silly topic to rest. The camera is far from the most used feature on smartphones.

Use download

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Very cool, finally something interesting to contribute to this beaten topic. Good if most phones are not considered cameras.

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

burkphoto wrote:

The standard for naming digital camera sensors has... (show quote)

Being an old school film shooter that is why I often name them by their actual size, for larger formats anyway: 24x36mm (FF), 6x6cm, 6x7cm, 4x5", 5x7", 8x10", etc. I was aware of the old video tube naming system. 35mm (film & FF) has a 43mm diagonal (whence 43mm is the true normal for 35mm). The sub-APS-C pencil eraser-sized sensors are so not impressive to me personally. I have two 4x5" cameras!

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

I will still contend that it is a computer with lens and sensors. Take away the computer part and it won’t function as a camera...

If I hit someone with it then it can be an Assault Weapon...😳😎

Dikdik wrote:

I would suggest that if you are using it to take pictures with, that it's a camera, too.

Dik