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Sep 24, 2019 20:42:57   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Don't let the photographer you were yesterday stop you from buying a new camera tomorrow.

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Sep 24, 2019 20:45:26   #
will47 Loc: Indianapolis, IN
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Don't let the photographer you were yesterday stop you from buying a new camera tomorrow.


If I switch to the 90D what could I expect in IQ, or anything, with the extra 12 megapixels.

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Sep 24, 2019 21:04:36   #
Joe Blow
 
will47 wrote:
In my previous post I asked if I should switch to a 90D from a 7D Mark ll. I forget to mention that I also have a 6D Mark ll.


An old saying is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Upgrade if you need more camera. Don't if what you have works.

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Sep 24, 2019 21:09:39   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
will47 wrote:
If I switch to the 90D what could I expect in IQ, or anything, with the extra 12 megapixels.


Do you often crop your images substantially?

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Sep 24, 2019 21:15:25   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Imagine your life as a successful photographer. What camera are you holding?

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Sep 24, 2019 22:06:41   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
The 90D is a better camera in many, many ways over the older 7D II and with the exception of full frame, a better camera than the 6D II. I'm not going to spew specifications, you can look them up, but the newer camera is a better camera. If you can afford one and you want one, then buy one, the body isn't all that expensive and your EF lenses will work on it.

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Sep 24, 2019 22:36:04   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
TriX wrote:
Do you often crop your images substantially?


Yes, IMO, CROPPING ! (image magnification without TCs) and less noise.

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Sep 24, 2019 22:37:08   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Imagine your life as a successful photographer. What camera are you holding?


SONY A9

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Sep 24, 2019 22:51:18   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
imagemeister wrote:
Yes, IMO, CROPPING ! (image magnification without TCs) and less noise.


Exactly why I asked the OP the question. (If you routinely crop substantially, the higher resolution is an advantage).

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Sep 25, 2019 05:35:02   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
will47 wrote:
I was at the camera store today and looked at the 90D. I have a perfectly good 7D Mark ll. I shoot birds, animals, landscapes etc. That's what I prefer. The 90D's biggest asset seems to be in the megapixels in the sensor. I would be going from about 22 to 32. Speed is about the same but that is not the biggest priority for me. He told me that Canon would not be coming out with a 7D Mark lll. This is of course just an opinion question, but would this switch be advisable? I have no complaints with the 7D to this point and it does not have a large shutter count
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Go with the 90D.
More detail in your bird and animal photos will be amazing.

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Sep 25, 2019 06:25:17   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
My other thought would be to consider a excellent condition used or referb 5D4. I think you can find one in the $1700-$2000 price range. It has some advantages you may or may not desire. But I would consider it too.

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Sep 25, 2019 06:35:32   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Generally speaking, yes... for you it probably makes sense to go with the 90D.

The higher pixel count (32.5MP.... versus 20MP in 7DII) would be great for landscape photography and the camera should also be fine for birds and other critters.

I don't know what "etc." photography is, so can't advise you about that

The 90D has an excellent 45-point AF system (inherited from 80D, with an added feature or two), large 100% viewfinder, frame rate that matches the 7DII's and more. It's probably the 90D is able to do these things thanks to the Digic 8 processor it uses. The 7D Mark II needs dual Digic 6 processors AND a separate chip running the AF system alone, to have the same level of performance. In a sense, we're benefiting from the quest for 4K video, which appears to have required that big increase in processor power.

A possible downside to the 90D is that it will shoot CR3 RAWs, which older software can't handle. More than 50% increase in resolution will also make for much bigger image files, which in turn will demand bigger memory cards (only single SD slot in 90D.... versus dual slots in 7DII: one CF, one SD). The 90D will also want a more powerful post-processing computer and will fill up hard drives a lot faster.

If you use a tripod for landscape photography, you would probably like the 90D's articulated LCD screen. That would be good for low angle macro work, too. Lots to like about the 90D!

I shoot a lot of sports with my two 7DIIs and won't be "updating" to 90D. For sports, in particular, the older camera still has a better 65-point AF system with some useful features the 90D appears to lack (it doesn't have the two Expansion Points patterns the 7DII has, for example). The 7DII's viewfinder is also slightly larger (100%, 1.0X magnification... versus 100%, 0.95% mag in the 90D). The 7DII is also able to buffer more images, though that may be because of it's smaller image file size, more than the size of the buffer itself.

Plus, the 7DII is mostly clad in magnesium (instead of plastic), appears to be better sealed for weather resistance, and has a higher durability rated shutter (200,000 clicks... versus either 100K or 150K, depending upon what you read about the 90D). The battery grip for the 7DII, which I use as well, also have a more complete set of secondary controls than the grip for 90D. The BG-E16 for the 7DII has a second joystick and AF pattern toggle switch. The BG-E14 the 90D uses (same as 80D and 70D) doesn't have those. Anyone using the vertical battery grip a lot for portrait orientation shooting will need a long thumb with the 90D!

I'm not dissing the 90D. It looks to be a great camera! A 32.5MP APS-C sensor is a real game changer. (It also suggest we'll see an 83MP full frame camera, since that's what this pixel density scales up to in full frame.)

Imagine doing some multi-shot panoramas with the 90D.... compositing three or four 32.5MP shots into a single image! Or, how about focus stacking with it? Should make for some pretty impressive stuff!

I can't help but wonder if Canon really won't be coming out with a 7D Mark III. It's been a pretty darned successful model line, to just walk away from it. The 90D is good... but not really a replacement. Rumor has it that Nikon is considering discontinuing the D500, while might give Canon a real edge with a 7DIII, if they chose to do it.
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Sep 25, 2019 06:51:11   #
stevetassi
 
More megapixels doesn’t make a camera better. I would pass on the 90D and keep using what you have.

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Sep 25, 2019 07:20:02   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
will47 wrote:
I was at the camera store today and looked at the 90D. I have a perfectly good 7D Mark ll. I shoot birds, animals, landscapes etc. That's what I prefer. The 90D's biggest asset seems to be in the megapixels in the sensor. I would be going from about 22 to 32. Speed is about the same but that is not the biggest priority for me. He told me that Canon would not be coming out with a 7D Mark lll. This is of course just an opinion question, but would this switch be advisable? I have no complaints with the 7D to this point and it does not have a large shutter count
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Are you happy with the results you are getting now? Well?

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Sep 25, 2019 08:17:53   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
will47 wrote:
I was at the camera store today and looked at the 90D. I have a perfectly good 7D Mark ll. I shoot birds, animals, landscapes etc. That's what I prefer. The 90D's biggest asset seems to be in the megapixels in the sensor. I would be going from about 22 to 32. Speed is about the same but that is not the biggest priority for me. He told me that Canon would not be coming out with a 7D Mark lll. This is of course just an opinion question, but would this switch be advisable? I have no complaints with the 7D to this point and it does not have a large shutter count
I was at the camera store today and looked at the ... (show quote)


I have both a 5DIV and a 5DSR and the megapixels clearly make a BIG difference for birding and wildlife.

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