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Aug 8, 2019 14:59:12   #
Bill P
 
If you own a factory that makes widgets and design one, you patent them. If you don't anyone can make them and make the money.

If you are a performing artist, it's harder to make a buck. For every one living in a million dollar mansion in Beverly Hills, there are dozens if not hundreds living in the backs of their cars. So you monetize what you can: copyright your songs, and your image. Imagine if anyone could use a picture of Taylor Swift, where they would be and how much money could be made.

Or to make it more direct, imagine if the same artist that has that in their contract came to your workplace and be able to say ot the boss, lower that guys pay by 50%. How would you feel?

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Aug 8, 2019 16:31:30   #
Abo
 
cam.79 wrote:
Just a question from a newbie, I have a D5600 with a 50mm f1.8 and will be in the balcony 1st row, could decent pics be possible? The stage will be about 100-150 ft away.


You can pretty much forget about facial detail, however you may get some interesting
shots of the action on the entire stage area.

For an accurate idea, stand a "subject" 125 feet away near/under
a street light at night and fire away with your D5600 with a 50mm f1.8... what you see is what you get.

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Aug 8, 2019 16:36:25   #
cam.79 Loc: Gray, GA
 
Abo wrote:
You can pretty much forget about facial detail, however you may get some interesting
shots of the action on the entire stage area.


The concert is the Mannheim Steamroller Christmas show. It is music but it is a light show also, kind of like a firework show indoors. No faces needed.

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Aug 8, 2019 16:51:26   #
Abo
 
cam.79 wrote:
The concert is the Mannheim Steamroller Christmas show. It is music but it is a light show also, kind of like a firework show indoors. No faces needed.




If you havnt already read it, ive added a "tip" to the post you quote.

Cheers,

Alan

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Aug 8, 2019 17:11:17   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
srt101fan wrote:
Guidance for a recent outdoor concert included: "Please note all flash photography, video recording and use of professional lenses by unauthorized persons is prohibited".

Can someone please tell me what a "professional" lens is?

Thank you in advance.



Big glass.

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Aug 8, 2019 17:14:08   #
Toby
 
speters wrote:
There is no such thing as professional, or un-professional lens! I think what they are referring to is any lens longer than six inches. Why that is, I have no idea!


I because you may be more likely to get photos good enough to sell and they want the profit and to control the quality and"mood" of the photo.

2 If I pay $100 or more for a ticket I don't want you sitting next to me waving that thing around.

I wish they would also band cell phones for night events.

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Aug 8, 2019 17:30:39   #
dragonswing Loc: Pa
 
Around here, "professional" is anything except a cell phone. One venue has a signed painted on its door saying "no lens over 6 inches" but they said I could not bring a 4 inch lens in because it detached. So I asked about a bridge camera with a lens that does not detach. He said I could take pictures with a cell phone and that was all. I do not have a cell phone.

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Aug 8, 2019 17:42:46   #
Derryg
 
I have shot some concerts of artists I knew, got passes from their staff. Usually shot from the back or side of the stage, sometimes from the front. Didn't have to use flash as the stage lighting was usually sufficient.
A couple got used for staff PR purposes with photo credit. Shot rodeo's for a while if you want to sell rodeo pics you need to be a pro PRCA or PBR credentialed photographer.

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Aug 8, 2019 17:44:45   #
jdedmonds
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Usually one that can be detached from the camera. Or in some MLB parks, measures 6-inches or longer.


Really? Ball parks limiting photography equipment? Somebody oughta sue 'em. Know any good lawyers? (Please refrain from using the word "oxymoron" or equivalent language)

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Aug 8, 2019 17:49:33   #
jdedmonds
 
therwol wrote:
Some artist in the past didn't even object to people recording their concerts. I'm thinking of the Grateful Dead where there was a section in the front for the "tapers". On the other hand, I can see artists wanting to control pictures that are released to the public. Some might not be flattering. The problem for them now is that if you can get close enough, you can take pretty good photos with a phone. I've been to concerts/shows where the "phone police" went around looking for the bright screens and telling people to cut it out. There are many places such as historic buildings in Europe that prohibit photography, but with cameras on phones, I think that such rules would be a challenge to enforce.
Some artist in the past didn't even object to peop... (show quote)


Whenever I'm in New York City I go to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. I take with me my very best gear, and I'm not aware that the Met places any restrictions of photography of the exhibits.

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Aug 8, 2019 19:07:50   #
coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA
 
I would guess any high powered looking lens.

I went to a 4th of July concert at the Hollywood Bowl once with my Nikons and "professional" lenses. They would not let me in with them. Had to leave them at the security room. Scary.

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Aug 8, 2019 19:36:34   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Johnwoo wrote:
Went to Horse race track that had clearly stated rule "no cameras". I call ahead and asked for exception, they allowed my camera and only asked I Not take pictures of gamblers, " take all you want of horses and facilities, Paddocks etc, gave me a signed card of questioned. Point being asking in advance can get you a long way


I've been to multiple horse racing tracks in the UK and in Ireland. No rules on cameras that I'm aware of, and no one bothered me when I was taking both stills and video of the races.

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Aug 8, 2019 19:42:21   #
srt101fan
 
jdedmonds wrote:
Whenever I'm in New York City I go to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. I take with me my very best gear, and I'm not aware that the Met places any restrictions of photography of the exhibits.


In my experience museums vary in the limitations they impose on photography. Most don't allow flash. Most also seem to prohibit photography of art works that are part of a travelling exhibit.

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Aug 8, 2019 19:58:09   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
srt101fan wrote:
In my experience museums vary in the limitations they impose on photography. Most don't allow flash. Most also seem to prohibit photography of art works that are part of a travelling exhibit.

I capture scenes - rather than exhibits - and my experience is that ambient light works better than flash.

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Aug 9, 2019 00:29:49   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
srt101fan wrote:
Guidance for a recent outdoor concert included: "Please note all flash photography, video recording and use of professional lenses by unauthorized persons is prohibited".

Can someone please tell me what a "professional" lens is?

Thank you in advance.


Only lenses $10,000 or more are "professional" ...make sure to bring your receipts!



With the "six inch rule" does that include the lens hood? Fully extended zoom? Well, I guess my Tammy 150-600 makes me a "pro" ... yippie!

Yes they are just trying to protect their paid professionals...

This makes the case for M4/3 systems :)

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