the smallest fstop i have on any of my lens is 2.8 - so i will try doing as you say - i just never heard of setting the lens to infinity before - but dont usually put the lens on manual either.
thanks ronald - i am going to get this down one way or another - yes, it was plenty bright and the fstop was f5 so i will try a similar set up again - think that was one of the problems and as jim mentioned i also was using a focal point that was for a very narrow depth of field so the two things together - i have much experimenting to do this weekend and lots to keep trying to learn - thanks for the encouragement!
If it was plenty bright go with the largest number F 16, 22 that you can at ISO 400 and see what shutter speed you get. Try to get at least 1/60th. The larger the number the smaller the aperture (F-stop). After you take the picture look on your LCD and blow the picture up so you can see how sharp the people in the back rows are.
debbiesweds wrote:
Would like some help with this - dont have the pics to upload with me but i took some pics of my family at a ball game and we were scattered over three or four rows - stood at the front of them and thought got a good shot but only one or two in focus. the lighting was pretty good and it is clear enough - but i had my fstop on 5 - could that be the problem and if so what should i set it at to get best results and everyone in focus
and is there a general rule of thumb for getting shots right when people are of different levels and distances - i have the canon 7D and also not sure what focus setting is best - there are four and is one better for group shots than another? thank you!
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Before I say anything, post a photo with EXIF data for your topic of concern. that will narrow comments down to a exact point of reference.
Hope you will all will humor an old man. The bigger # does not coraspond with a smaller apature it just looks like it.F-stop is the measurement of this opening, expressed as the focal length of the lens divided by the diameter of the aperture. This makes it a fraction. So f16 is really f1/16 which is a smaller stop than f/8 which is f1/8. Ansil Adams and many other photographers noted the stop as F/8. Lens makers standardized the markings for the apature to 1.4, 2, 2.8, 4, etc to f/16 or even down to f/128 on large veiw camera lenses. These stops made it easy to double the exposure time if you stopped down a stop or cut it in half if you opened a stop. Since the new cameras set things for you they use what seems to be odd numbers like 9 or 13. Now so that everyone is in focus in the picture. Use a small f stop such as f/11 and focus on the person in the middle if your camera wont do it focus manualy. Dave
The numbers 9 and 13 are thirds of a stop. If you look in the numbers of your manual sometimes they will explain the stops in 1/3rds. They are 8, 9, 10, 11. Then you go to 11, 13, 14, and 16. I know this because I constantly set my exposure manually in 1/3rd of a stop. For critical exposure this is important.
wilsondl2 wrote:
So f/16 is really f1/16
No, I'm pretty sure it's just f/16, the "f" represents your focal length.... if your lens is 135mm, that would be 135/16, or an aperture width of ~8.4mm at f/16. Hope this helps.
OK I think Dave had said what I said long ago and as I look this up in my Canon manual It explains it well. Good luck in your shots.
jerm wrote:
wilsondl2 wrote:
So f/16 is really f1/16
No, I'm pretty sure it's just f/16, the "f" represents your focal length.... if your lens is 135mm, that would be 135/16, or an aperture width of ~8.4mm at f/16. Hope this helps.
From a mathematical point of view, you are both saying the same thing, just in different ways; f/16 would be equivalent to f(times)1/16. I believe the point you are both making is that the f/stop is a fraction, therefore the larger the number, the smaller the value, and the smaller the opening in the lens.
There is a article on this forum titled "A Tedious Explanation of F-stops" by Matthew Cole. I read it recently and learned a lot. He explains apertures and how F-stops are determined. He can explain this far better than I can. This is a must read for any new or old photographer. I knew how F-stops worked but had forgotten how they were determined. Please read this article several times and you will have a better grasp of what others have been saying on this forum. I say read this several times because it is fairly technical.
Yooper wrote:
jerm wrote:
wilsondl2 wrote:
So f/16 is really f1/16
No, I'm pretty sure it's just f/16, the "f" represents your focal length.... if your lens is 135mm, that would be 135/16, or an aperture width of ~8.4mm at f/16. Hope this helps.
From a mathematical point of view, you are both saying the same thing, just in different ways; f/16 would be equivalent to f(times)1/16.
Ahh, gotchya. Thanks for clearing that up.
jerm wrote:
Ahh, gotchya. Thanks for clearing that up.
You are welcome. I don't see any sense in arguing semantics, when there are so many more interesting things to argue about, like who has the best camera. Personally, I think the best camera is the one in your hand.
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