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Jun 25, 2019 06:35:21   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
david vt wrote:
Hi all

Part 1. Stupidity.

After lending my D7200 with long lens to my spouse to shoot our son in a decathalon that I could not attend (and setting up for a non-enthusiest to use it), I was returning said camera to its home when I became distracted and put it down on an upholstered bench, just for a second to grab something. You can see it coming, right? Sure enough, it rolled off the bench, to the tile floor, and pulled the mounting ring right off the camera.

Part 2. Sadness.

No one to blame but myself, and I am normally so careful, to the point of being a***-retentive about where I set it down and how I change lenses. As my spouse said “glad that was you and not me”, complemented by my aspiring photog daughter, whom commented “that hurts - I sometimes think you worry more about your camera than us”. Full-transparency- on some days, she may be right.

the only good news came from my son, who pointed out that at least it happened after the last meet of the year, and I have all summer to get it fixed. (90% of my shooting is school sports, indoor and outdoor). He is right - two weeks ago would have been devastating- but it does not take much of the sting out of my stupidity.


Part 3. Questions.

So I contacted Nikon repair about sending the whole thing in to be fixed and checked out. Their online estimator priced it at about $350 for the body repair. This camera is no longer sold. Have not been able to find any mfg refurbs. The closest I can find it a KEH used EX+ for about $650, but I can’t tell the shutter count on that. I like the dual slots (I shoot jpeg for quick postings and RAW for when I want to work a particular shot more) so the D7500 is really not to my liking, and the D5 is too many $$ right now.

A) my D7200, but for this accident, was near perfect with about 8000 shutter count. Do you think it is worth the repair, given that to replace means the used market? If you were going to look at something else (likely in the $1000 or less range), what else might you consider, given my primarily “HS sports shooting” goal.

B) I have to send the long lens (70-200 f2.8 VR2) in anyway, both to get the “extra” mounting ring off and to have it checked out. As long as it is in, should I have them “tune” them together for AF fine tune? I have never done this, but they will have both parts.....

C) as long as I am sending in, I might send in the Nikkor 16-80 as it seems a bit noisy and also to have them do the AF Finetune. Thoughts?


Thank you in advance for your advice.
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Easy:
I agree with Kmgw9r - "Upgrade" Technology has really made great strides since the D7200.

Or upgrade to a Nikon 850 and have the D7200 repaired to use as a backup, loaner, beach/river, boating camera or just a painful reminder to file with your life's lessons learned.
Quit being so hard on yourself and
Smile,
Jimmy T Sends

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Jun 25, 2019 06:41:01   #
ColonelButler Loc: Niagara-on-the-Lake ON Canada
 
Look at the D7500. Same guts as the D500 at 70% of the price. Only one slot but easy to manage the RAW + jpg and MOV files post shoot

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Jun 25, 2019 07:30:04   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
Gene51 wrote:

"I would definitely NOT have the lens adjusted to the camera - "

The Fine Tuning adjustment is made in the camera body, not the lens. The idea of having Nikon make the adjustment is a good one. That means the OP will have to decide on a body.

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Jun 25, 2019 07:38:47   #
khorinek
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
Being a conservative guy, I would have Nikon fix it.


I agree, have it fixed. I shoot Canon, but I'm sure Nikon is similar, they can fix it and you will be back in business. 8,000 shots isn't a lot nowadays. I had Canon replace they shutter mechanism on my 5D III, it had 350,000 shots on it, works like a new one now.

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Jun 25, 2019 08:12:22   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
david vt wrote:
Hi all

Part 1. Stupidity.

Part 3. Questions.

So I contacted Nikon repair about sending the whole thing in to be fixed and checked out. Their online estimator priced it at about $350 for the body repair. This camera is no longer sold. Have not been able to find any mfg refurbs. The closest I can find it a KEH used EX+ for about $650, but I can’t tell the shutter count on that. I like the dual slots (I shoot jpeg for quick postings and RAW for when I want to work a particular shot more) so the D7500 is really not to my liking, and the D5 is too many $$ right now.

Thank you in advance for your advice.
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Many here have had good luck with refurbs having low shutter counts.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1237483-REG/nikon_1554b_d7200_dslr_camera_body.html

But I recommend the D500.

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Jun 25, 2019 08:29:33   #
dpfoto Loc: Cape Coral, FL
 
The D750 is a good camera, and has dual SD slots. I use "Slot A" for RAW, and "Slot B" for JPEG.

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Jun 25, 2019 08:44:49   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
david vt wrote:
Hi all

Part 1. Stupidity.

After lending my D7200 with long lens to my spouse to shoot our son in a decathalon that I could not attend (and setting up for a non-enthusiest to use it), I was returning said camera to its home when I became distracted and put it down on an upholstered bench, just for a second to grab something. You can see it coming, right? Sure enough, it rolled off the bench, to the tile floor, and pulled the mounting ring right off the camera.

Part 2. Sadness.

No one to blame but myself, and I am normally so careful, to the point of being a***-retentive about where I set it down and how I change lenses. As my spouse said “glad that was you and not me”, complemented by my aspiring photog daughter, whom commented “that hurts - I sometimes think you worry more about your camera than us”. Full-transparency- on some days, she may be right.

the only good news came from my son, who pointed out that at least it happened after the last meet of the year, and I have all summer to get it fixed. (90% of my shooting is school sports, indoor and outdoor). He is right - two weeks ago would have been devastating- but it does not take much of the sting out of my stupidity.


Part 3. Questions.

So I contacted Nikon repair about sending the whole thing in to be fixed and checked out. Their online estimator priced it at about $350 for the body repair. This camera is no longer sold. Have not been able to find any mfg refurbs. The closest I can find it a KEH used EX+ for about $650, but I can’t tell the shutter count on that. I like the dual slots (I shoot jpeg for quick postings and RAW for when I want to work a particular shot more) so the D7500 is really not to my liking, and the D5 is too many $$ right now.

A) my D7200, but for this accident, was near perfect with about 8000 shutter count. Do you think it is worth the repair, given that to replace means the used market? If you were going to look at something else (likely in the $1000 or less range), what else might you consider, given my primarily “HS sports shooting” goal.

B) I have to send the long lens (70-200 f2.8 VR2) in anyway, both to get the “extra” mounting ring off and to have it checked out. As long as it is in, should I have them “tune” them together for AF fine tune? I have never done this, but they will have both parts.....

C) as long as I am sending in, I might send in the Nikkor 16-80 as it seems a bit noisy and also to have them do the AF Finetune. Thoughts?


Thank you in advance for your advice.
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I cried for about 45 minutes after I read about your tragedy. And I'm a Canon Kid. I had this happen to me a short while ago in London. I dropped my Canon 5D with my 24mm lens attached. I thought no big deal until I spent 45 minutes trying to remove the lens. I had bent the lens mounting. OUCH! I repaired the body and the lens. That was a little on the expensive side. When I was in JFK Airport taking a shot of my family, the mirror in my camera got stuck. So my photos of St. Lucia were by my wife's Fugi point and shoot. Now the Canon 5D will be donated to a local high school. So my experience is simple. For the most part, your camera is your baby. Having it damaged is extremely painful. I would repair the body and the lens simply because you are familiar with it. This is known as "muscle memory." This is important and you will understand better later on. You could sell it at a loss but why. You could buy the camera you have been drooling about. Then there is that muscle memory thing. You have to learn a new camera and all the while hear your spouse complaining you spent too much money for the D5. That is a nice camera nonetheless.
Consider repairing the D7200 and use it for a little longer. (Your spouse will be happy you did.). Then switch up to the D5. I hope you like my thoughts all of which are In My Humble Opinion.
By The Way, newer cameras are designed to take SOME wear and tear. The abuse most cameras go through is shameful. Don't beat yourself up about it.

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Jun 25, 2019 08:50:42   #
sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land
 
GO with the d7500 or d500

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Jun 25, 2019 08:57:29   #
Haydon
 
B&H has a D7200 refurbished for $694.00.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1237483-REG/nikon_1554b_d7200_dslr_camera_body.html

Buy what you can afford. Don't let other people spend your money for you :)

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Jun 25, 2019 09:12:15   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
david vt wrote:
Hi all

Part 1. Stupidity.

After lending my D7200 with long lens to my spouse to shoot our son in a decathalon that I could not attend (and setting up for a non-enthusiest to use it), I was returning said camera to its home when I became distracted and put it down on an upholstered bench, just for a second to grab something. You can see it coming, right? Sure enough, it rolled off the bench, to the tile floor, and pulled the mounting ring right off the camera.

Part 2. Sadness.

No one to blame but myself, and I am normally so careful, to the point of being a***-retentive about where I set it down and how I change lenses. As my spouse said “glad that was you and not me”, complemented by my aspiring photog daughter, whom commented “that hurts - I sometimes think you worry more about your camera than us”. Full-transparency- on some days, she may be right.

the only good news came from my son, who pointed out that at least it happened after the last meet of the year, and I have all summer to get it fixed. (90% of my shooting is school sports, indoor and outdoor). He is right - two weeks ago would have been devastating- but it does not take much of the sting out of my stupidity.


Part 3. Questions.

So I contacted Nikon repair about sending the whole thing in to be fixed and checked out. Their online estimator priced it at about $350 for the body repair. This camera is no longer sold. Have not been able to find any mfg refurbs. The closest I can find it a KEH used EX+ for about $650, but I can’t tell the shutter count on that. I like the dual slots (I shoot jpeg for quick postings and RAW for when I want to work a particular shot more) so the D7500 is really not to my liking, and the D5 is too many $$ right now.

A) my D7200, but for this accident, was near perfect with about 8000 shutter count. Do you think it is worth the repair, given that to replace means the used market? If you were going to look at something else (likely in the $1000 or less range), what else might you consider, given my primarily “HS sports shooting” goal.

B) I have to send the long lens (70-200 f2.8 VR2) in anyway, both to get the “extra” mounting ring off and to have it checked out. As long as it is in, should I have them “tune” them together for AF fine tune? I have never done this, but they will have both parts.....

C) as long as I am sending in, I might send in the Nikkor 16-80 as it seems a bit noisy and also to have them do the AF Finetune. Thoughts?


Thank you in advance for your advice.
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I would send the lens then get the ring removed and get it checked and buy a new 7200 if you like it I just got one six months ago and they're still out there brand new. You could even buy find them used on B&H or adorama as long as you get a 9 or 9 plus you're good.

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Jun 25, 2019 09:15:41   #
ELNikkor
 
Considering that the camera is fixable and has low-mileage on it, (the broken part is not an internal, electric thing, just the mount? The frame is not bent? How about the electrical contacts which talk to the lens? How about the screw thing that focuses the lens?) send it and the lens in to Nikon for an accurate assessment for exact cost of repair, and count that as your penance for a brief lapse of carefulness. What you get back will be like a new camera, and, if it is only for $350, then you're good to go.

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Jun 25, 2019 09:25:03   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
david vt wrote:
Hi all

Part 1. Stupidity.

After lending my D7200 with long lens to my spouse to shoot our son in a decathalon that I could not attend (and setting up for a non-enthusiest to use it), I was returning said camera to its home when I became distracted and put it down on an upholstered bench, just for a second to grab something. You can see it coming, right? Sure enough, it rolled off the bench, to the tile floor, and pulled the mounting ring right off the camera.

Part 2. Sadness.

No one to blame but myself, and I am normally so careful, to the point of being a***-retentive about where I set it down and how I change lenses. As my spouse said “glad that was you and not me”, complemented by my aspiring photog daughter, whom commented “that hurts - I sometimes think you worry more about your camera than us”. Full-transparency- on some days, she may be right.

the only good news came from my son, who pointed out that at least it happened after the last meet of the year, and I have all summer to get it fixed. (90% of my shooting is school sports, indoor and outdoor). He is right - two weeks ago would have been devastating- but it does not take much of the sting out of my stupidity.


Part 3. Questions.

So I contacted Nikon repair about sending the whole thing in to be fixed and checked out. Their online estimator priced it at about $350 for the body repair. This camera is no longer sold. Have not been able to find any mfg refurbs. The closest I can find it a KEH used EX+ for about $650, but I can’t tell the shutter count on that. I like the dual slots (I shoot jpeg for quick postings and RAW for when I want to work a particular shot more) so the D7500 is really not to my liking, and the D5 is too many $$ right now.

A) my D7200, but for this accident, was near perfect with about 8000 shutter count. Do you think it is worth the repair, given that to replace means the used market? If you were going to look at something else (likely in the $1000 or less range), what else might you consider, given my primarily “HS sports shooting” goal.

B) I have to send the long lens (70-200 f2.8 VR2) in anyway, both to get the “extra” mounting ring off and to have it checked out. As long as it is in, should I have them “tune” them together for AF fine tune? I have never done this, but they will have both parts.....

C) as long as I am sending in, I might send in the Nikkor 16-80 as it seems a bit noisy and also to have them do the AF Finetune. Thoughts?


Thank you in advance for your advice.
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$350 for Nikon repairs is pretty much their standard quote or fee. Not unreasonable for that camera. If you've liked it and used to using it, have it fixed. I see nothing wrong with a used D7200 (DX) as a replacement if need be. Nearly all of my digital cameras were purchased used as well as my most of my film cameras. For your uses, a D500 (Pro DX) would be a good choice. A friend of mine bought a D750 (FX) and is very happy with it. A D7200 is not particularly old in my estimation.

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Jun 25, 2019 09:58:31   #
ballsafire Loc: Lafayette, Louisiana
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Considering that the camera is fixable and has low-mileage on it, (the broken part is not an internal, electric thing, just the mount? The frame is not bent? How about the electrical contacts which talk to the lens? How about the screw thing that focuses the lens?) send it and the lens in to Nikon for an accurate assessment for exact cost of repair, and count that as your penance for a brief lapse of carefulness. What you get back will be like a new camera, and, if it is only for $350, then you're good to go.
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Jun 25, 2019 10:29:51   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
You state that "high school sports" are one of your primary subjects and is your biggest area of concern. Based on that...

A D750 would be a backwards move, as a replacement for a D7200. Where someone used a 70-300mm lens on a DX format camera in the past, they'd need a much bigger, heavier and more expensive 200-500mm lens on an FX camera. This is true of any FX camera, not just the D750. The D750 also has a lower specification shutter and less ISO range than the D7200. It does have a continuous shooting frame rate similar to D7200 (around 6 fps). The D750 is a very nice camera... it's just not ideal for sports photography.

The most direct replacement for D7200 would be the D7500. At 21MP, the D7500 is slightly lower resolution than the D7200 (24MP)... but the D7500 has faster frame rate, some tweaks to the AF system that help it perform better for action photography, higher ISO range and other helpful features. One thing it lacks is dual memory card slots... But, I gotta ask, why do you feel you need that? Shooting sports I rarely put a second memory card in my cameras, even though they have dual slots. Have you ever actually needed a backup copy of your images? If it's not for backup purposes, but you want dual slots in order to have a lot of storage capacity for a large number of shots.... buy some bigger memory cards. Or just get more adept at changing memory cards. (I sometimes fill a dozen or more cards at a sporting event. I can change cards in under 25 or 30 seconds, and that includes checking images already on the card to make sure they are older ones and formatting the fresh card, both of which I always do.)

For sports photography, the D500 would be the most logical upgrade from D7200 or D7500. It uses essentially the same sensor as the D7500, but has faster frame rate, more advanced AF system, even higher ISO range (ridiculously high, in fact) and more.

Another D500 feature you won't see on the other cameras is Nikon's "Anti-Flicker". I think only the D500 and D850 have this and it's very helpful if you have to shoot under fluorescent or sodium vapor or similar other forms of lighting, common inside gyms and outdoors in stadiums at night. This type of lighting actually cycles on and off rapidly... 60 times per second. This causes all sorts of exposure problems with cameras that don't have this feature... a lot of under-exposed shots.

Anti-Flicker (also may be called "Flicker-Free") works by detecting the cycle of the light and timing the release of the shutter to coincide with the peak output of the light. Because it all happens in a tiny faction of a second, you rarely notice any delay at all... but you get far better and more consistent exposures under these lights, than you will without it. I've been working with a couple cameras that have this feature for two years now and it makes a big difference. Shooting "under the lights" at some of the same venues, I now rarely see any poorly exposed images thanks to using this... where I used to end up with about half my shots under-exposed... some of them too bad to recover even when I shot RAW. NOTE: Another solution for that type of lighting is to use a slower shutter speed... but that's not an option for sports photographers who are trying to capture shots of the action.

Of course, another "problem" is that D500 cost a lot more than D7500 or D7200.

Probably your lowest cost option would be repairing your D7200 (hard to say for certain without someone actually looking at the camera). Next lowest cost would be a used or refurbished D7200, but right now the cost wouldn't be much different to get a brand new D7500. Except that would mean only having a single memory card slot. Arguably the "best" sports option would be a D500... meets all your needs and then some... but also costs significantly more.

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Jun 25, 2019 12:13:22   #
JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington
 
Not a Nikon user, but based on reading the above posts, having Nikon repair your D7200 is a good way to go. You noted the very low shutter count, 8,000 I recall. You probably will not find a used body with a shutter count in this range.

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