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Jun 4, 2019 14:14:50   #
Bill 45
 
Goofynewfire: My flash does not look at all like the one you have posted.

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Jun 4, 2019 14:24:36   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Bill 45 wrote:
E.L. Shapiro: Thank you for your reply. I have made a hard copy of what you wrote, so I can reread it at a few time so I full stand what you are writing. As for pictures that more down the road at this time.
Robertjerl: What are you saying, I confuse. I known that people use them for Star Wars.
For every one else: Camera has a name plate on it "Speed Graphic" Was it change some time in it history I don't known. As for the focal plane shutter, the camera may had one sometime in the past. Here is the Ser#: 750XXX.
Kept those reply coming, been very helpful to me. Thank you Bill45
E.L. Shapiro: Thank you for your reply. I have mad... (show quote)


Over the years the speed graphic had two different model of battery holders/handles for the flash that looked different from each other. Only one style was used for light saber handles in Star Wars and that model is the one valuable to collectors. The one I had was the wrong one. Goofie's picture is the right one.

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Jun 4, 2019 14:34:07   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Bill 45 wrote:
Goofynewfire: My flash does not look at all like the one you have posted.


It’s an ad for a Star Wars Light saber.

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Jun 4, 2019 15:15:25   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
pendennis wrote:
Pacemaker Speed Graphics did indeed have focal plane shutters. They provided speeds of up to 1/1000 second. You could use lenses without shutters. They were produced until ca. 1970.

Graflex did discontinue the focal plane shutter on some models, starting in the mid-1950's. Pacemaker Crown, Super Speed, and Super Graphic models were produced without a focal plane shutter.


You mean the shutter was the same size as the film, in the back of the bellows, right in front of the film plane?? That's what a "Focal-plane shutter" is. Show me.

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Jun 4, 2019 15:21:37   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
nadelewitz wrote:
You mean the shutter was the same size as the film, in the back of the bellows, right in front of the film plane?? That's what a "Focal-plane shutter" is. Show me.


Look at my second post on this thread. Click on the link and you’ll see a video.

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Jun 4, 2019 15:45:53   #
Bill 45
 
chashans wrote:
Why bother? They were standard issue at Naval Photo School, Pensacola, Florida in 1958 and widely used in the fleet for years after. The digital age is here...be thankful. Those are best used as boat anchors now.


Did you every think that their are people like me who like to see how those old cameras work and like working with them.

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Jun 4, 2019 15:54:39   #
wmurnahan Loc: Bloomington IN
 
scg3 wrote:
If you can swing the stiff price, Freestyle in Los Angeles still carries Fuji instant color film in 4x5. No need for a darkroom; you just need money: https://www.freestylephoto.biz/02602760-Fujicolor-FP-100C-Professional-Instant-Print-Film-4x5-10-pack

Incidentally, however you process 4x5 film, it's useless until you print the negative. That DOES call for a darkroom. You might be wiser to put the camera back in its display case.


Back in the Air Force in 1967 I was obliged to use a 4x5 Speed Graphic. I couldn't wait to get my hands on a Nikon! The Graphic was a clunker -- all work and no play.
If you can swing the stiff price, Freestyle in Los... (show quote)


If you are sending out for developing, they do printing I would bet.

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Jun 4, 2019 16:32:05   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
robertjerl wrote:
I never developed film in a dark room, changing bag and light proof developing tanks for 35, 120/220 and 4x5. The darkroom was for printing.


Back in the day, I always found that commercially developed black and white negatives were overdeveloped. You could do a lot in developing film yourself to influence the outcome of your prints. Different developers had different grain outcomes. Compensating developers would allow a modest increase in effective film speed without much degradation of the image. I always used a water bath after the developer instead of putting the film right in the fixer. It increased shadow detail. If I were still into shooting black and white film, I would definitely still develop it myself.

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Jun 4, 2019 17:03:12   #
Bill P
 
nadelewitz wrote:
You mean the shutter was the same size as the film, in the back of the bellows, right in front of the film plane?? That's what a "Focal-plane shutter" is. Show me.


I don't own one, but used one. And that's exactly what it was. I found it confusing too, but they worked. But you must live in Missouri.

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Jun 4, 2019 18:32:18   #
Gilkar
 
Ah the memories. . . I cut my photographic teeth on a 4x5 speed graphic. The used ones I see in my camera store today cost more than my original. That being said, enjoy the camera. I still wish I had mine.

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Jun 4, 2019 19:15:33   #
baer
 
I got my camera refurbished at Shutterworks in Fort Worth. I got my camera from school; used it for sport photography.
Photographique in dallas will develop the film.
Try for setting up a darkroom
I just got a Bessler 4x5 color enlarger at a flea market for pennies.
Baer

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Jun 4, 2019 19:17:47   #
pendennis
 
nadelewitz wrote:
You mean the shutter was the same size as the film, in the back of the bellows, right in front of the film plane?? That's what a "Focal-plane shutter" is. Show me.


Exactly, and GOOFYNEWFIE provided the exact link.

The Graflex focal plane shutter is just over 5" wide. It uses a variable length slit, and moves down the film at varying speeds, based on the tension of the release spring.

Focal plane shutters have been around in one form, or the other, since around 1870. However, the dual curtain focal plane shutter came about around 1925, invented by Leica.

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Jun 4, 2019 20:03:00   #
awesome14 Loc: UK
 
Bill 45 wrote:
Did you every think that their are people like me who like to see how those old cameras work and like working with them.
It's like a whole field of photography in itself. But a lot of times they don't work very well after sitting for decades. For certain cameras I think it's worth it to try.

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Jun 4, 2019 21:09:37   #
tvhasben Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Focal plane shutter??? I would be very surprised that a 4x5 camera would have focal plane shutter.


That's what separates the Speed from the Crown 4 x 5 cameras. I have both a Speed and a Pacemaker Crown Graphic. I used it to shoot photos for billboards. I had a Century Graphic (2 1/4 x 3 1/4 sheet film or 6x9 roll film), but it got lost when we moved. I see the Graflex 4x5's and 35's from time to time on Shopgoodwill.com.

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Jun 4, 2019 22:39:11   #
Kuzano
 
nadelewitz wrote:
You mean the shutter was the same size as the film, in the back of the bellows, right in front of the film plane?? That's what a "Focal-plane shutter" is. Show me.


Yes, the focal plane shutter is just like the shutter in most SLR camera's. The opening is the size of the film.

It's just as you imagine and the difference in the shutter speeds is in how fast the opening in the rotating blind passes in front of the film (directly in front of the film)

A very reliable system and if you read my previous post on advantages. Worked for Graflex for years. Can't show you... no longer have one in my possession.

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