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Jun 2, 2019 07:52:49   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
First priority for me is to freeze the action when shooting action. Blurry action is worthless. Second is to get a good exposure. I shoot RAW.

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Jun 2, 2019 09:21:44   #
In-lightened Loc: Kansas City
 
Steve Perry wrote:
The only way to fly in my opinion:

https://backcountrygallery.com/manual-mode-with-auto-iso/

All of these were taken with the method described in the video:

https://backcountrygallery.com/wildlife-action-shots/


Steve...I have your e-book Secrets to Exposure and Metering and have learned a lot. My question is about reflectance and changing background as subject flies by. I have run into issues where the meter was fooled such as bird took off and flew through some trees in the background then hit the sky. Or water reflectance. Did I have something set incorrectly? Do you have some guidelines of times when Auto ISO doesn't work?

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Jun 2, 2019 09:37:01   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
In-lightened wrote:
Steve...I have your e-book Secrets to Exposure and Metering and have learned a lot. My question is about reflectance and changing background as subject flies by. I have run into issues where the meter was fooled such as bird took off and flew through some trees in the background then hit the sky. Or water reflectance. Did I have something set incorrectly? Do you have some guidelines of times when Auto ISO doesn't work?


Thanks!

M + Auto ISO works best when the reflectance doesn't change :)

For a situation like you describe, I just set everything manually. As long as the subject is in the same light, it works fine and you'll get far more consistent results. See page 463 (manual mode section) of the exposure book for a longer explanation.

Now, if you have variation in both reflectance and light levels, it's a different story and much more difficult to cope with - that part is covered in the Advanced Exposure Techniques of the book, page 544.

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Jun 2, 2019 10:06:31   #
sumo Loc: Houston suburb
 
I just ordered my 850, should get it on Tues..... I copied everyone's responses here for perusal later...guess I will be ordering Steve Perry's book also Thanx to all...lots of good info

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Jun 2, 2019 10:07:23   #
In-lightened Loc: Kansas City
 
Steve Perry wrote:
Thanks!

M + Auto ISO works best when the reflectance doesn't change :)

For a situation like you describe, I just set everything manually. As long as the subject is in the same light, it works fine and you'll get far more consistent results. See page 463 (manual mode section) of the exposure book for a longer explanation.

Now, if you have variation in both reflectance and light levels, it's a different story and much more difficult to cope with - that part is covered in the Advanced Exposure Techniques of the book, page 544.
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Perfect and thanks Steve. Will re-read again, and ag......

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Jun 2, 2019 13:41:54   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Since no 2 situations are identical there is no 1 best. I would go with a shutter speed fast enough (1/500 or faster like 1/2000) to stop motion blur and use auto ISO. Aperture suggestion varies with situation. Wide open in low light, narrower when bright for better DOF.

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Jun 2, 2019 16:26:01   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I would add get a DOF app so you can see what your DOF is with various focal lengths, apertures and distance to subject. Then you will have a better idea of the aperture you need to get the DOF you want...

PHRubin wrote:
Since no 2 situations are identical there is no 1 best. I would go with a shutter speed fast enough (1/500 or faster like 1/2000) to stop motion blur and use auto ISO. Aperture suggestion varies with situation. Wide open in low light, narrower when bright for better DOF.

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Jun 2, 2019 20:37:18   #
RahulKhosla
 
Thanks. Any suggestions for a DOF app?

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Jun 2, 2019 21:25:00   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I use one called Simple DOF on my iPhone and iPad. But the Photo Pills App has some excellent capability that far exceeds Simple DOF. Either will do the job and there are others as well.

RahulKhosla wrote:
Thanks. Any suggestions for a DOF app?

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Jun 2, 2019 21:42:23   #
RahulKhosla
 
Thanks

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Jun 3, 2019 08:57:17   #
In-lightened Loc: Kansas City
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
I use one called Simple DOF on my iPhone and iPad. But the Photo Pills App has some excellent capability that far exceeds Simple DOF. Either will do the job and there are others as well.


Do you have any tutorials you like to learn Photo Pills? Have the app but mostly fumble through. Appreciate all that is shared to make learning fun!

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Jun 3, 2019 12:26:04   #
Desmogger Loc: Annapolis, MD
 
Strodav wrote:
There's no ideal, just what works for you. With my D850 and D500 for wildlife / birding I use BBF so AFC, auto ISO 64 (100) - 1600, Manual, 1/1000 or faster, start with aperture open to separate subject from background, but close down for a larger DOF when needed. For a slow moving single subject, single point AF targeting an eye. For something faster or multiple targets I'll go to 9 points. The camera will usually try and focus on the thing closest to the camera. For BIF I'll go to Grp or even 3d if the bird is flying towards me. I usually use matrix metering and use compensation for dark subjects or light subjects. If you shoot raw you've got a lot of leeway to adjust exposure during PP. I usually use either a Nikon 200-500mm f/5.6 or Tamron 150-600mm f/5-6.3 G2. For sports, I sometimes use a Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 G2 maybe with a x1.4 tele-converter on the D500 when I'm in a lower light situation.

A couple of good references are Steve Perry's "Secrets to Stunning Wildlife Photography" at BackCountryGallery.com or chapter 8 in Tony Northrup's " How to Create Stunning Digital Photography", which you can find on Amazon.
There's no ideal, just what works for you. With m... (show quote)


I just ordered the Nikon 200- 500 from B&H I have old F3 body and a D3100 Next Paycheck want a Full Frame D750. Will the the D3100 make the Full Frame Lens 200-500 effectively a 280mm-700mm zoom on the DX sensor D3100 body?

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Jun 3, 2019 12:34:52   #
Desmogger Loc: Annapolis, MD
 
Desmogger wrote:
I just ordered the Nikon 200- 500 from B&H I have old F3 body and a D3100 Next Paycheck want a Full Frame D750. Will the the D3100 make the Full Frame Lens 200-500 effectively a 280mm-700mm zoom on the DX sensor D3100 body?


Oh I forgot to mention I also ordered with the 200-500 Nikon, a Nikon AF-S Teleconverter TC-14E III
On the Full Frame system will give me 280-700mm and on the little D3100 should be 392mm to 980 mm equivalent? Assuming I am correct on the DX versus FX conversion factor?

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Jun 3, 2019 12:50:55   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
The Nikon crop factor is 1.5 so your lenses will have the equivalent field of view of the focal length x 1.5. The focal length does not change only the field of view because the image coming through the lens is hitting the smaller cropped DX sensor.

Desmogger wrote:
Oh I forgot to mention I also ordered with the 200-500 Nikon, a Nikon AF-S Teleconverter TC-14E III
On the Full Frame system will give me 280-700mm and on the little D3100 should be 392mm to 980 mm equivalent? Assuming I am correct on the DX versus FX conversion factor?

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Jun 3, 2019 12:56:00   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I think the logical place to start is with the manuals, guides and videos that Photo Pills provides. There is a lot of capability in Photo Pills and I sort of look at it like I do when learning features of my camera. I pick, study and play with it until I have a solid understanding of what it is doing. Sometimes that takes a couple minutes and sometimes a couple hours. You didn’t indicate if there was any specific area you are struggling to learn. Some tolls are fairly straightforward others are more complicated.

In-lightened wrote:
Do you have any tutorials you like to learn Photo Pills? Have the app but mostly fumble through. Appreciate all that is shared to make learning fun!

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