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May 18, 2019 13:24:24   #
holifield4
 
Also- there are a few who want to learn how to shoot with a better quality camera.

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May 18, 2019 13:24:40   #
holifield4
 
Also- there are a few who want to learn how to shoot with a better quality camera.

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May 18, 2019 13:28:11   #
holifield4
 
traderjohn wrote:
Do they need to know how to use a DSLR to take pictures for their yearbook? Have they expressed an interest in knowing about DSLR's? How many cameras do you have? Who gets to use the camera(s)? I think you might be in for an interesting ride.



I personally have one. We have a total of 7 girls, but only one would be using the camera at a time. They’ve had a basic point and shoot camera in the past, but they need better cameras in order to get the really good action shots that is needed for sports pages.

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May 18, 2019 13:52:38   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
holifield4 wrote:
You can’t get good quality action shots of a football game with a cellphone camera. They come out grainy and not very good. They have had a point and shoot camera in the past that they’ve been using, but it’s not a very good one to get good pictures either.


Exactly. First ask about shots that don't come out well with a cell phone. Then go into the whys like long shutter speeds causing blur, or too much ISO causing grain, etc. Then explain the exposure triangle and how a DSLR overcomes each problem.

While I have 4 real cameras, I was unhappy with my smart phone (a cheap one) because I had no control over the settings (shutter speed, ISO, aperture). I downloaded an app for Androids only and was happier. But I couldn't get over the limitation of a the cell phone camera (lack of sensitivity, limited ISO range)

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May 18, 2019 14:01:43   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
holifield4 wrote:
You can’t get good quality action shots of a football game with a cellphone camera. They come out grainy and not very good. They have had a point and shoot camera in the past that they’ve been using, but it’s not a very good one to get good pictures either.


They're not going to get good quality shots with a regular camera either. They are not photographers. Let's get realistic.

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May 18, 2019 14:13:18   #
holifield4
 
PHRubin wrote:
Exactly. First ask about shots that don't come out well with a cell phone. Then go into the whys like long shutter speeds causing blur, or too much ISO causing grain, etc. Then explain the exposure triangle and how a DSLR overcomes each problem.


Thank you for realizing what I was asking! I’m not expecting my students to be magazine quality photographers the very first time they touch the camera. I do, however, want them to grow as a student, a photographer, and an all-around better person. I have a couple that loves photography, but they’ve never had the opportunity to use a dSLR.... I just wanted to figure out how to teach them the best way possible.

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May 18, 2019 14:13:23   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
Many phones give the ability to make some adjustments to the camera.

I looked at the Cambridge site mentioned above and it seems to be a good resource.

You may want them to to do some post-processing of images using FastStone or with a phone Snapseed.

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May 18, 2019 14:16:20   #
holifield4
 
chapjohn wrote:
Many phones give the ability to make some adjustments to the camera.

I looked at the Cambridge site mentioned above and it seems to be a good resource.

You may want them to to do some post-processing of images using FastStone or with a phone Snapseed.


I didn’t realize they had that option, so I for sure will be putting that to use. Especially with candid shots they take throughout the year on their phones.

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May 18, 2019 14:28:28   #
ngrea Loc: Sandy Spring, Maryland
 
leftj wrote:
They're not going to get good quality shots with a regular camera either. They are not photographers. Let's get realistic.

Not necessarily true. Some teens take very good photographs; just as with any art form some people have an in-born ability. They may benefit from some additional instruction or better equipment. Some of us make do with learning techniques and tricks in an attempt to make up for lack of talent.

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May 18, 2019 14:32:59   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
holifield4 wrote:
Thank you for realizing what I was asking! I’m not expecting my students to be magazine quality photographers the very first time they touch the camera. I do, however, want them to grow as a student, a photographer, and an all-around better person. I have a couple that loves photography, but they’ve never had the opportunity to use a dSLR.... I just wanted to figure out how to teach them the best way possible.


Why haven't they had the opportunity to use a DSLR?

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May 18, 2019 14:37:45   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
holifield4 wrote:
I didn’t realize they had that option, so I for sure will be putting that to use. Especially with candid shots they take throughout the year on their phones.


As I previously indicated, I recently downloaded a free app for Android phones that added control of shutter speed and ISO as well as other features. It is Camera FV-5 Lite. I have shown it to several friends who have reported back they are thrilled with it.

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May 18, 2019 14:39:25   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
BTW - where are my manners? WELCOME TO UHH!

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May 18, 2019 14:40:43   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
PHRubin wrote:
As I previously indicated, I recently downloaded a free app for Android phones that added control of shutter speed and ISO as well as other features. It is Camera FV-5 Lite. I have shown it to several friends who have reported back they are thrilled with it.


I'm willing to bet that virtually all of these students have iphones, not android. To them android is not cool.

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May 18, 2019 14:44:58   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
leftj wrote:
I'm willing to bet that virtually all of these students have iphones, not android. To them android is not cool.


I'm sure there are similar apps for iPhones.

FWIW there is a companion app for Android that works for video and interacts with the camera version. It is Cinema FV-5 lite.

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May 18, 2019 15:07:14   #
holifield4
 
leftj wrote:
Why haven't they had the opportunity to use a DSLR?



$$, mainly. Their parents haven’t been able to purchase, and the school’s advisors in the past haven’t taken the initiative to buy a camera for the program. One of the previous advisors said “why should I spend the funds on that? They are kids, they don’t appreciate anything”

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