ELNikkor wrote:
Why was it so important to show all that grass in the foreground and only a small part of "the 4th largest cathedral in the world" in the background? You may have a nice "box camera", but probably one of those "toy cell phone" cameras would have included the cathedral...
Maybe the people on the lawn were the subject?
Maybe he didn't want the building to take center stage?
Location/description was added info?
Perhaps cell phones could be considered to be Box cameras. (e.g. Brownie) They serve the same functions as early box cameras. SLR, DSLR, Mirrorless, view cameras, etc. are cameras for photographers.
fetzler wrote:
Perhaps cell phones could be considered to be Box cameras. (e.g. Brownie) They serve the same functions as early box cameras. SLR, DSLR, Mirrorless, view cameras, etc. are cameras for photographers.
"Box" cameras have (had) a fixed focal length, fixed aperture (some a select between color and B&W), and fixed shutter. That's it.
No way I would call a cell phone camera a box camera.
I've seen some EXCELLENT images from cell phones and I won't put my nose up to them at all!
Why do so many people hate/dislike/have a poor opinion of/look down on cell phone cameras? Do they also dislike pocket and bridge cameras as well?
GAG!
Longshadow wrote:
Maybe the people on the lawn were the subject?
Maybe he didn't want the building to take center stage?
Location/description was added info?
I don't mind high res pics taken with these phone cameras but *why* are these pics taken in the portrait and not the landscape mode? On the grass: Maybe the grass was the subject and the cathedral was the background (sorry, just being snarky).
I do a lot of bike riding and I take around a Canon ELPH for pics I wish to take along the ride. I leave my Nikons home during those rides (see attached - Deerborn Rd, Auburn, NH). Someday I too will sporting a phone camera when I get the right deal on the phone plan. Meanwhile the Nikons have their place for my more serious pics.
ELNikkor wrote:
Why was it so important to show all that grass in the foreground and only a small part of "the 4th largest cathedral in the world" in the background? You may have a nice "box camera", but probably one of those "toy cell phone" cameras would have included the cathedral...
Actually, the focus of the photo for me (the story it tells) is that a mother is taking a photo of the cathedral under the arch made by her daughter who is doing a back-bend. Sort of iconic, have your child do something that has this magnificent cathedral in the background.
Maybe the OP is noticing the difference between "taking a picture" and "making an image."
The smartphone does offer a choice that is very compact, multifunctional and quite competent for the images that most people take. The smartphone has become as much a necessary companion as your wallet with drivers license and credit card in it. The quality of recent cellphone releases cameras allow images to be captured that you are comfortable with showing anyone, as long as they are going to be enlarged beyond 8 by 10. I don't live where a cellular signal is available until I am several miles toward areas of population. So for me the phone isn't a constant companion for me as it is for my children. They literally CANNOT leave home with it.
When I travel to Japan I notice that everyone uses a smartphone for taking photos. When they see someone with a dslr, they think you are still living in the stone age carrying a large heavy item just like a mulet. Last year I went to the Christmas Honolulu City Lights to take night photos, and between thousands of people I was the only one with a point and shoot. My wife like her samsung s7edge.
no12mo wrote:
I don't mind high res pics taken with these phone cameras but *why* are these pics taken in the portrait and not the landscape mode?
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People hold and use the cell phone in portrait mode 99.999% of the time. So it's second nature to hold it that way for pictures.
I agree, MANY shots and almost ALL videos should be done in landscape mode. But most people never realize that. They're not photographers, they just have a camera, and are used to holding the phone vertically.
Now when I do panos on my phone, I hold it in portrait position for more vertical coverage.
I love real cameras whether in the shape of a box or the wide interchangeable lens modern models available today. I have, however, learned to respect cellphone cameras as the better snapshot tool of the general public and far better (by leaps & bounds) than those yellow throw away, cardboard/plastic things bought in drugstores not too long ago. I see where he is going with this although I, like others on this blog, remember "box camera" as original Kodak "Brownie Hawkeye" and earlier actual boxes with a simple lens.., not nearly the sophisticated machines we use today. I miss my Hawkeye, part of which, dropped down a crevasse while out on a park trip in upstate NY. I was a kid of 9 or 10 then. Been trying to make up for it ever since.
photogeneralist wrote:
I think that he's referring to no dedicated cameras , smart phones and tablets are prevalent. Box cameras used to have another meaning (IE Kodak Brownie)
And they still have the same meaning. Where would we be if everyone had the individual right to redefine terms for the rest of us?
aellman wrote:
And they still have the same meaning. Where would we be if everyone had the individual right to redefine terms for the rest of us?
THAT is the
original BOX camera!
Confusion. And some people are trying.
This is not just in other countries, walk about any American city and you will see many more people with cell phone cameras in use than regular dedicated cameras. Cell phone cameras are easy to carry, take great casual pictures of people and places, and can instantly be shared on social media. Dedicated cameras are used by more serious photographers and are capable of taking better quality photos for enlargement and display. They also excel when telephoto lenses are required, but require much more work to use than a cell camera.
does my twin lens, Mamiya count?
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