pablake wrote:
Hi ,My name is Phyllis, I am an amature photgrapher . A grandmother of 4. I love to take pictures of my grandchildren and family and friends. Im looking for a potrait lens to take pictures of mostly my grandchildren and family members. I made a little studio that I have back drops and props. I have a cannon EOS 70 D that came with a kit lens efs 18-135 with image stabilizer lense. Im looking for something that I can get close ups and of the back drops also. A lense that is fast because its hard to keep a 2 year stiill even for a few seconds ( LOL ). If any one has any suggestions for me I would appreciate the information. I have looked on line but there is so many. 50mm 80 mm etc. If any one could give advise . Thanks so much. Phyllis
Hi ,My name is Phyllis, I am an amature photgraphe... (
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For general portraiture, on an APS-C camera like Canon 70D a 50mm to 85mm lens might be ideal. The shorter 50mm focal length is good for indoors when you have limited working space... While the 85mm allows you to stand a bit farther away, perhaps for more candid style shots. "Fast" lenses are those with large apertures such as f/2, f/1.8, f/1.4 or even f/1.2. It does not refer to the lens' focusing speed, although that can be important too for some portraiture (particularly kids or pets that are in constant motion!).
The reason short telephotos are used for portraiture has to do with perspective... with the way the lens renders the various components of a person's face, in relation to each otehr. A "normal to wide" lens (30m or shorter focal lengths) will tend to exaggerate, more-so the closer you are to the subject. Too close and too wide will make people's noses look unusually large (the part of their face that's closest to the camera), while making their ears appear oddly small (a more distant part of their face).
Longer focal lengths do the opposite. It's more subtle, but a lens 100mm or longer (on APS-C) can cause a portrait to look compressed or "flattened". This isn't necessarily a bad thing and is even used deliberately with some types of portraiture. For example, fashion photographers often use longer focal lengths... but to do so they need either a large studio or plenty of working space on location.
The reason large apertures are desirable is to be able to blur down the background (and sometimes foreground), while keeping the subject sharp, to make them really stand out. The ability to blur down a background also can be useful eliminating distracting objects behind subjects, such as when on location where you have limited control. (In a studio, you often can simply change the backdrop.)
Some recommended portrait lenses for use on Canon 70D:
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Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM... Reasonably affordable at around $329 and with large enough aperture to introduce a fairly strong background blur effect, along with mid-grade quality build and fast USM focus drive. This lens isn't at it's best "wide open" at f/1.4, but that can actually be useful for portraiture... or it sharpens quite nicely stopped down slightly to f/2 or f/2.2. A cheaper alternative is the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM which is more lightly built, 2/3 stop slower so not able to blur as strongly, and STM focus drive isn't as fast as USM... Or a considerably more expensive option is the Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L USM which has premium build, incredible ability to blur down backgrounds for an especially "dreamy" look, but is a bit challenging to work with because it can render such shallow depth of field.
Image below was made with Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM lens (on Canon 30D)...
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Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM... Another reasonably affordable lens ($350) with a fairly large aperture, mid-grade build quality and fast USM focus. Works great wide open or stopped down. A more expensive, premium option is the Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM (image stabilized). Or... even more pricey, premium and able to render extremely soft backgrounds... there is the Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L USM II.
This was shot with the EF 85mm f/1.8 (on Canon 30D)...
You mention grandchildren... Kids and pets can present added challenges. With them, good photo opportunities can be very fleeting and a zoom lens can be helpful. The problem is that fast (large aperture) zooms tend to be big, heavy and expensive. When I need the versatility, I use several different zooms:
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Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM... A popular lens among wedding photographers, I like it a lot for other types of portraits, especially on an APS-C camera like your 70D. To me, it seems to come up a bit short for portraiture on a full frame cameras. The current "II" version will set you back $1600 and is a superb lens. But the first version (which is what I've used for years) is no slouch and can be found used for quite a bit less. It may need a "tune up", though. The original version seem to get out of calibration over time, with use and wear & tear. I've never needed to have mine tuned up... but other people have reported needed to do so.
This was shot with Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L (at 58mm and f/11, on Canon 30D, with studio lighting gear)...
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Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM or EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM... can be useful for outdoor shooting, in particular, where you might need the longer focal length at times, for more distant subjects. There have been a number of versions of these lenses, all of which are quite good. There are also less expensive versions without IS (Image Stabilization). Prices range from around $600 to $2000.
This image was taken with Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM (at 93mm and f/4, on Canon 7D)...
And this was done with Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (at 200mm and f/5.6, on Canon 7D)...
So long as lighting is good, there are lots of lower cost alternatives that can work very well for portraiture, such as...
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Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM... I know several pros who use this lens, which dates from the days of film and was recently discontinued.... but can be found used for $200 or less. It was sold as the kit lens with many cameras and offered for more than 20 years, so there are a lot of them around. It's build quality isn't top drawer, but it's image quality and overall performance rivals that of several lenses that cost many times more. I've used four or five different copies of this lens over the years... especially when I will be hiking some distance with my gear and want to lighten my load.
I used the EF 28-135mm IS USM lens to take this shot (at 117mm and f/7.1 on Canon 7D)...
Frankly, your Canon EF-S 18-135mm IS lens can do very similar work. How well it does sort of depends upon which version of that lens you've got. There have been three different ones, all of which are image stabilized (IS). The original (not "STM" nor "USM") was okay.... pretty good, but not great. The "STM" with faster "stepper motor" focus drive also got a new optical formula that visibly improved image quality. The latest and greatest of them is the "USM" or "ultrasonic focus motor" has 2X to 4X faster focus than the STM, but uses the same optical formula for identical image quality. The key to these 28-135 and 18-135 lenses is good light... they all have relatively slow variable apertures: f/3.5-5.6. It can be ambient light, flash or studio strobes... They just aren't "low light" lenses and their apertures allow somewhat limited blurring of backgrounds.
There are third party lenses similar to many of the above. For example, Tamron offers 45mm f/1.8 and 85mm f/1.8, both with "VC" image stabilzation. They also offer 24-70mm f/2.8 and 70-200mm f/2.8 zooms. They also have 60mm f/2 and 90mm f/2.8 macro lenses that can serve for portraiture (models without USD focus drive are a bit slower focusing). Sigma offers premium 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.4 lenses... as well as 24-70mm f/2.8, 70-200mm f/2.8 and a 70mm f/2.8 macro lens. Tokina offers a 24-70mm f/2.8 and just recently introduced a premium 50mm f/1.4 for use on Canon cameras. There are many others.
Also, while the above are some recommendations.... there are situations where most any lens can be used for portraiture.
A "normal" to wide lens might be needed for environmental portraits (that show a lot of a person's surroundings) or for a group shot.
For example, this was done with 24-70mm f/2.8 at 30mm focal length (on :
Longer focal lengths can work too. For example...
....300mm:
Or even 700mm!
Above I mention getting too close with too short a lens and how it exaggerates features. Even that can be used at times... perhaps humorously. The pic below was shot that way deliberately, making a curious horse's nose look big and it's eyes and ears seem small. The lens used was the same 24-70mm mentioned above, at 66mm on full frame camera, which is equiv. to approx. 42mm on an APS-C camera like 70D. What caused the somewhat disproportionate effect here was working close to the subject. If I'd backed off a bit, the horse's features would look more "normal":
All the above examples except for this last one were done using the lenses on cameras with the same sensor format as your 70D. (Different focal lengths would be used for so-called "full frame" cameras with larger sensors, or with so-called Micro 4/3 cameras with smaller sensors.)
Personally I'm not a big fan of using macro lenses for portraiture. They can be "too sharp".... especially for feminine portraits (your mother-in-law might not like having her every little flaw recorded in high resolution!). Also, macro lenses tend to be slower focusing... even when they use higher performance types of focus drives. That's because they're designed to emphasize accuracy over speed (high magnification often means extremely shallow depth of field, which calls for very precise focusing). I do make an exception, though... with a Tamron 60mm macro lens. It's an f/2 lens, with a stop larger aperture than most macro lenses. I carry it at times for convenience and to lighten my camera bag... it take the place of three lenses: 50mm, 85mm portrait lenses AND a 100mm macro lens.