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Apr 30, 2019 10:34:43   #
a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
 
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Apr 30, 2019 11:09:55   #
Tigger1 Loc: Surrey, BC Canada
 
a6k wrote:
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Not surprising as Apple has been saying for more than a year that in late 2019 or early 2020 all 32bit software would cease to operate once you upgrade beyond the current version MacOS. What is not mentioned in the news release is that all Apple hardware older than early 2011 models will not support or be upgradable to the new OS.
Guess the moral of this story is “start saving for new hardware and software” if you want to play with the big boys!

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Apr 30, 2019 11:19:52   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
This is old news. Yet there are still people whining about it!

Unfortunately, there are still some humans who think you ought to be able to buy a computer and upgrade it and its software for more than five years without encountering some stumbling blocks of progress. Well... Sorry!

The computer industry doesn't work that way. It cannibalizes itself to morph into something better.

You can always QUIT upgrading your Mac, and keep it until the operating system no longer gets security updates. At that point, you can take it completely off the Internet and keep using it until it croaks, at which point you can buy another old Mac off of eBay or Craigslist or another used gear vendor. I've done that with a couple of old G4 machines, which we keep so my wife can use files she created a decade ago for a former employer (They call from time to time...).

You can also "dual boot" your current Mac, upgrading it to the next system on one drive, but running an alternative system on a partition, or on an external drive. I do that, too. I have several external drives that boot my iMac from Mac OS X 10.6.8, MacOS 10.10.x, MacOS 10.12.x, and MacOS 10.14.4. Each runs a different mix of software, some of which is obsolete. Note that this only works with a Mac that runs the OLDEST system you need to run. Newer Macs won't boot from operating systems that are older than what they shipped with.

You can also decide to switch to newer, better software and endure the learning curve. I now run Microsoft Office 365 and Adobe Photography Bundle subscriptions, simply so I don't have to worry about the cost of upgrading a retail package that costs $100 or more. $10/month or $120 a year is affordable, especially for Office 365, because we use it on six devices for the same cost.

I switched to Lightroom years ago, because I needed to use it on a PC and a Mac. I liked Aperture for the first few versions, but they were "Apple only." I still use Final Cut Pro, rather than Premiere, because it runs much more efficiently than Premiere on Mac hardware. Apple integrates hardware and software, and Adobe doesn't.

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Apr 30, 2019 11:34:33   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
a6k wrote:
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I don't know why anyone would find this to be unexpected.

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Apr 30, 2019 23:23:49   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
Mac wrote:
I don't know why anyone would find this to be unexpected.

Well, yeah! This is THE standard Apple operating procedure.
Your Mac will run OK with it's included OS, and maybe the next 2 iterations. Then you need another Mac.
I liked Aperture- then it didn't like my Mac anymore. Photos does more but it's clunkier.
Apple wants to keep iOS and OSX similar enough that cell phoners won't feel confused.
You might as well buy Lightroom, and then YOU won't be.
I stopped at El Cap. Up to then, Mac has always been "then you can ...". From Sierra on, it's been "then you can't ..."
I tried using "reFind" but it's notso good with non Mac video cards. So I just change hard drives on my Mac Pro 50# baby. 1 for Yosemite- "snappy", 1 for El Capitan- "sturdy" and 1 for Windows 10- "mostly".

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May 1, 2019 06:51:13   #
domcomm Loc: Denver, CO
 
I had my last Mac for 14 years (bought new), when it finally died, I got a good used one for a great price on LEMswap (Lower End Macs), which is a great way to get Macs, parts, and software from other Mac users. It's amazing that some of them are still using the very old Mac SE and other early models.

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May 1, 2019 07:57:46   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Two OS upgrades...such BS you are spewing. Macs have always been easier and less expensive to do OS upgrades on than windows machines. Many people run macs for way longer than they could keep windows machines going.

Harry0 wrote:
Well, yeah! This is THE standard Apple operating procedure.
Your Mac will run OK with it's included OS, and maybe the next 2 iterations. Then you need another Mac.
I liked Aperture- then it didn't like my Mac anymore. Photos does more but it's clunkier.
Apple wants to keep iOS and OSX similar enough that cell phoners won't feel confused.
You might as well buy Lightroom, and then YOU won't be.
I stopped at El Cap. Up to then, Mac has always been "then you can ...". From Sierra on, it's been "then you can't ..."
I tried using "reFind" but it's notso good with non Mac video cards. So I just change hard drives on my Mac Pro 50# baby. 1 for Yosemite- "snappy", 1 for El Capitan- "sturdy" and 1 for Windows 10- "mostly".
Well, yeah! This is THE standard Apple operating p... (show quote)

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May 1, 2019 08:46:26   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Two OS upgrades...such BS you are spewing. Macs have always been easier and less expensive to do OS upgrades on than windows machines. Many people run macs for way longer than they could keep windows machines going.


Agree..agree...agree!
And I agree with 'stop whining'!
If you don't want to go with a third party editing and management program, then just import and transition to Photos. Or...don't upgrade to the next OS and continue running Aperture.

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May 1, 2019 11:13:07   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
a6k wrote:
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Ancient news already. Swapped to Luminar 3 and all is well...

Cheers!

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May 1, 2019 11:58:42   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Two OS upgrades...such BS you are spewing. Macs have always been easier and less expensive to do OS upgrades on than windows machines. Many people run macs for way longer than they could keep windows machines going.


Right on point, Notorious!

I bought a Mid-2010 Mac Mini. It came with OS X 10.6.8. I was able to install every version of the OS up to 10.13.5. That is SIX distinct versions of the operating system. 10.13.5 is still supported, so I use this machine as a media player in my living room, and to transfer vinyl albums to Garage Band and make .aac files for my iPhone (it drives my smart TV and sound bar via HDMI).

I later bought a Late 2013 iMac. It also came with OS X 10.6.8. It is running 10.14.4, the latest. That is SEVEN distinct versions of the OS. It should support the next version of the OS, too:

MacOS 10.15 compatibility list, according to Tech Radar on 4/16/19:

MacBook (Early 2015 or newer)
MacBook Pro (Mid 2012 or newer)
MacBook Air (Late 2012 or newer)
Mac mini (Late 2012 or newer)
iMac (Late 2012 or newer)
Mac Pro (Late 2013 or newer, or older models with a Metal-compatible GPU)
iMac Pro (2017)

Modern Intel Macs can, out of the box, run Mac OS. But you also can run Apple BootCamp and install Windows in a separate startup partition, or you can install Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion and run any flavor of DOS or Windows or Linux, simultaneously with the Mac OS, and switch back and forth between the different environments, cut and paste between them, share network resources...

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May 1, 2019 14:25:18   #
shieldsadvert
 
thanks very much. I've been using Aperture since the inception and love the program.

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May 1, 2019 19:35:37   #
dwermske
 
xt2 wrote:
Ancient news already. Swapped to Luminar 3 and all is well...

Cheers!


If you've upgraded to Luminar 3.1 try FILE > CLOSE and see what happens. Don't be surprised if the application shuts down.

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May 1, 2019 23:33:37   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
What are they thinking? It only worked for 5 more years after they discontinued support? Shameful. (Satire).

I loved Aperture. I used it from Aperture 1.0 up to 2014. I quit using it shortly after Apple announced the end of support for Aperture in June-2014. It was a royal pain to move my managed libraries but once done, I have not looked back. I have adapted to the new ways and with a company that values the business of creatives and photographers, rather than a company that mostly manufacturers “sell phones” now. I will miss Aperture because I still use it once in a blue moon to locate a Legacy image. It was the best DAMN program I have used bar none.

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May 4, 2019 15:54:39   #
NatureRocks
 
Just a note that might be of value to those caught in the struggles of ever-changing (improving?) Apple products. There are several competent technically savvy Apple systems developers, who are able to upgrade Macs, particularly the Power Mac's. Stephen Esser in Phoenix is a person who has put together 3 different Power Mac's for me; he usually puts in a more up-to-date motherboard, a very good graphics card, an SSD start-up disk and a larger standard hard drive. His prices are a lot less than buying something new, and, the Power Mac's are amazingly adaptable; at this point, on my main system, I have 3 scanners, 6 hard drives, & 4 printers, with a 32" TV for a monitor. His number: 602-809-2595; he is a really good fella, who does great work.

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May 4, 2019 18:28:48   #
dwermske
 
Just as a side note: If anyone is still using Aperture and are afraid of not being able to get to your original photo files once Aperture really fails to run; all that you have to do is go to the Aperture library and right click it. Then click on 'Show Package Contents' and then go to the 'Masters' folder and there they are listed by year. They can either be imported into another application or copied to the folder of your choice. This is also true for the iPhoto library as well.

I should also note that Aperture 3.6 is a 64bit application and should continue to run unless Apple specifically disables it. Their intention, as I read it, is to force the application designers to upgrade all their programs to 64bit. If that is truly the case, then Aperture 3.6 should continue to function beyond Mojave. Mojave is already a 64bit OS but it allows 32bit applications to run. Since I can always get to the original files I am going to take a wait-and-see attitude before dumping Aperture. I am already utilizing other options.

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