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Apr 8, 2019 19:59:25   #
canon Lee
 
jdubu wrote:
Are your layers in the correct order when you are brushing in darken mode?


Yes they are as I followed the video exactly. Have you tried the Darken technique yet? did it work for you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzPXZfP6fV4 Give it a try and let me know if it worked for you.

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Apr 9, 2019 07:43:57   #
RPW
 
This is an easy fix I learned from my old film days in photography school. Take a light reading through the window and set aperture and shutter speed accordingly. Then use flash to light the interior. You will have a correct exposure inside and out.

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Apr 9, 2019 07:53:59   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I've relied on ETTR exposure techniques.
--Bob
canon Lee wrote:
I do real estate photography and want to upgrade my editing for window pulls. I can not get the "darken" technique to work. I am using Adobe CC for Lightroom and Photoshop. I shoot in SRAW, and followed many of the videos on YouTube that show how to do a window pull using "darken" mode. I take an ambient shot of the room, then a flash shot, then migrate to photoshop layers. When it comes to actually using the brush tool and darken mode, to expose the window pull it doesn't do anything. up to now I have been cutting the over exposed layer to expose the widow layer beneath, which is time consuming. Help needed.
I do real estate photography and want to upgrade m... (show quote)

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Apr 9, 2019 09:01:44   #
Bubbee Loc: Aventura, Florida
 
There is very little need for post processing if you set the fstop for your flash distance, then set your shutter for the appropriate outside ambient. You may have to play with the iso and the settings and distance to get it right, but as a South Florida (with great water views, Realtor), I can vouch for it!

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Apr 9, 2019 09:27:12   #
Metis407 Loc: Canada
 
Use HDR and bracket the shot. Plus/minus 2 or 3 stops. Use Skylum Aurora app to combine shots. I used this all the time when I was an agent. Works very well

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Apr 9, 2019 11:19:32   #
DWHart24 Loc: Central Florida
 
Sounds like your technique is correct. For the window pull, expose for the window itself then light the window up with your speed light. The darken mode works great if the window is lit correctly.

DSC_7273 by David Hart, on Flickr

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Apr 9, 2019 11:30:51   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
DWHart24 wrote:
Sounds like your technique is correct. For the window pull, expose for the window itself then light the window up with your speed light. The darken mode works great if the window is lit correctly.

DSC_7273 by David Hart, on Flickr

David, that's a great photo! Thanks.

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Apr 9, 2019 12:26:42   #
DWHart24 Loc: Central Florida
 
bsprague wrote:
David, that's a great photo! Thanks.


Thanks and you're welcome!


I also suggest Nathan Cool Photo on Youtube. Very well done tutorials.

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Apr 9, 2019 12:37:18   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
RPW wrote:
This is an easy fix I learned from my old film days in photography school. Take a light reading through the window and set aperture and shutter speed accordingly. Then use flash to light the interior. You will have a correct exposure inside and out.

I use this method also but I'm not sure I would consider it an "easy" fix. Exposing the windows is easy but sometimes the flash part requires some trial and error attempts to get acceptable results.

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Apr 9, 2019 12:46:13   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
I have used hard flash to bring in the window but you loose the ambience of the room.

Is there a program which knows how to convey how you want the final picture to look?

So I take 3-5 photos and pick 2 or 3 to create the final photo.

The only program I have is PSE.

Here is a sample of my photo. 3 out of 6 exposures and 10 minutes later the final.
I used two white umbrella with fill flash.

Notice that I added the blue sky.

I also use a CPL to reduce glare on floors, ceilings, cabinets, etc.


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Apr 9, 2019 13:11:40   #
SalvageDiver Loc: Huntington Beach CA
 
canon Lee wrote:
Yes they are as I followed the video exactly. Have you tried the Darken technique yet? did it work for you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzPXZfP6fV4 Give it a try and let me know if it worked for you.


Hi Lee,

Did you find your answer? If you did, then just disregard. If not, is it possible to post your two images to troubleshoot?

I successfully use this technique often. In your case, the interior components must be brighter than the outside for it to work. The darken bend mode just replaces the lighter pixels with the darker pixels. The mask just confines the edit to your area of interest.

Mike

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Apr 9, 2019 14:20:30   #
CloudyCoastPhotography
 
canon Lee wrote:
I do real estate photography and want to upgrade my editing for window pulls. I can not get the "darken" technique to work. I am using Adobe CC for Lightroom and Photoshop. I shoot in SRAW, and followed many of the videos on YouTube that show how to do a window pull using "darken" mode. I take an ambient shot of the room, then a flash shot, then migrate to photoshop layers. When it comes to actually using the brush tool and darken mode, to expose the window pull it doesn't do anything. up to now I have been cutting the over exposed layer to expose the widow layer beneath, which is time consuming. Help needed.
I do real estate photography and want to upgrade m... (show quote)


Hello fellow real estate photog!
What you need to do is shoot HDR in each room. You can google how, or I can email you an “HDR Cheat Sheet” if you’d like. Message me at cptdanoldham@live.com and I can send it to you. You won’t even need a flash, just a sturdy tripod, a remote shutter (wired or wireless) or a steady shutter finger, and obviously a DSLR. Your camera may even have a bracketing option but I prefer manual with exposure adjustments. Anyhow, let me know if you want the cheat sheet; if not, Google “HDR photography” and you will be good to go!
Dan

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Apr 9, 2019 14:42:04   #
canon Lee
 
DWHart24 wrote:
Sounds like your technique is correct. For the window pull, expose for the window itself then light the window up with your speed light. The darken mode works great if the window is lit correctly.

DSC_7273 by David Hart, on Flickr


Hi David. I am now aware that the exposure of the window has to be within a certain level for "darken" to work. Sounds like a lot of trial and error. On a more practical level, I am more concerned with editing time for each shot and this magical technique would take me more time than if I took an interior and window shot separate and cut the window out. The going rate where I live is only $100.00. The shots are only used as thumb nails on a MLS.. As long as I get the interior well lit and sharp and the window not too blown out I know my clients would be happy. It's a lot better than the agents using their I-Phones. So not to create offending some of the Pros, I will go with my usual shoot, & leave this technique for those that do magazine and publications. I am just a hard working photographer not a legion LOL. Just thought the technique would save me time.

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Apr 9, 2019 14:42:41   #
canon Lee
 
canon Lee wrote:
Hi David. I am now aware that the exposure of the window has to be within a certain level for "darken" to work. Sounds like a lot of trial and error. On a more practical level, I am more concerned with editing time for each shot and this magical technique would take me more time than if I took an interior and window shot separate and cut the window out. The going rate where I live is only $100.00. The shots are only used as thumb nails on a MLS.. As long as I get the interior well lit and sharp and the window not too blown out I know my clients would be happy. It's a lot better than the agents using their I-Phones. So not to create offending some of the Pros, I will go with my usual shoot, & leave this technique for those that do magazine and publications. I am just a hard working photographer not a legion LOL. Just thought the technique would save me time.
Hi David. I am now aware that the exposure of the... (show quote)

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Apr 9, 2019 14:47:14   #
FiddleMaker Loc: Merrimac, MA
 
canon Lee wrote:
I suspect that the room being so much darker than the light from the window, caused me not to be able to get the technique to work. Seems to me that most well lit rooms can get a good window pull from just an ambient/flash shot. In the case of the very dark room, my ambient exposure for the window was totally blown out while the interior was very moderately exposed. I couldn't get a good balance from my ambient shot where the window was not blown. Adding the flash/TTL or M, helped to lower the light from the outside, but it still looked washed out. Am I making any sense? Has anyone tried the link I posted and tried it out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzPXZfP6fV4
I suspect that the room being so much darker than ... (show quote)


Wow - the final result (from watching video) is certainly dramatic. It is amazing what Photoshop can do.

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