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Feb 24, 2013 05:26:07   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
My early intro to photography,(1945) was the purchase of ready made negatives of the English First Division football teams and a few sheets of glossy POP Printing out Paper. Also included in the pack, were a few sheets of Matte paper which was coated green on one side. The paper and negative were placed together (contact print wise) and held up to the sun for so many seconds/minutes. The paper was then placed into plain water, and a blue/white image appeared. The glossy paper needed developer and Hypo fixer to make the image permanent.The glossy paper prints were the more acceptable black & white images.

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Feb 24, 2013 06:37:11   #
Nightski
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Doddy wrote:
Well I have learned something new.


I think you learned something "old".


GoofyNewfie, you are always so funny!

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Feb 24, 2013 06:43:27   #
Nightski
 
Doddy wrote:
Well I have learned something new.


I have learned something new-old too, and really would like to see more images of this if some you hedgehogs would like to share any of yours here. And btw, I have a whole bunch of blue images because I had my camera on tungsten instead of sunshine while out taking pictures in the sparkling snow. :roll:

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Feb 24, 2013 06:50:30   #
Nightski
 
jerryc41 wrote:
BillyDuds wrote:
In the attic of an old New England home, I came across a photo album from the early 1900s. All the photos in it are a lovely shade of blue. Would this have been their original color, or is it the result of some chemical change to B+W pics over the century or so since they were taken? (As best I can understand from Wikipedia, color film wasn't readily available until somewhere in the 1930s, so I'm certain these photos are not the result of degradation of color photos.)

Quite a coincidence. I posted this recently.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-97755-1.html



http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/16/black-and-white-
and-blue/
quote=BillyDuds In the attic of an old New Englan... (show quote)


Wow, that second link really says it all. It did a nice job of explaining it, and I loved the images.

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Feb 24, 2013 08:19:07   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
Come on Cyanotype is very beautiful. It is also a very versatile process. I interned at my university's gallery last semester and we had a large cyanotype from this artist.

http://wildernessoverload.com/home.html

The Witness was the image we had

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Feb 24, 2013 08:48:37   #
BillyDuds Loc: North Carolina
 
Many thanks to all who've responded to my old blue photos, for your interest and fascinating insights. Y'all have taught me a lot. I had no idea these photos were so interesting!
And it's good to see how well they've survived the past one hundred years or more, though it does make one wonder what the photographs we're taking in this digital era will look like a century from now.

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Feb 24, 2013 08:51:55   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
They will likely be unreadable due to format and technology changes or will be lost due to mismanagement because of the large number of files.

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Feb 24, 2013 09:03:12   #
BillyDuds Loc: North Carolina
 
Yup, that's what I'm thinking too. I'm beginning to believe the best strategy may be to make actual prints of everything I really want to preserve. Cyanotypes, anyone?
And, while doing my best to back up and maintain the digital files, resolving not to shed too many tears if/when they eventually fade into electronic oblivion.

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Feb 24, 2013 09:07:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BillyDuds wrote:
Yup, that's what I'm thinking too. I'm beginning to believe the best strategy may be to make actual prints of everything I really want to preserve. Cyanotypes, anyone?
And, while doing my best to back up and maintain the digital files, resolving not to shed too many tears if/when they eventually fade into electronic oblivion.

The problem I find with prints, as I look back at old color photos, is the shift toward red. I'm scanning some old pics and correcting and saving them.

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Feb 24, 2013 09:10:27   #
Papa Joe Loc: Midwest U.S.
 
BillyDuds wrote:
In the attic of an old New England home, I came across a photo album from the early 1900s. All the photos in it are a lovely shade of blue. Would this have been their original color, or is it the result of some chemical change to B+W pics over the century or so since they were taken? (As best I can understand from Wikipedia, color film wasn't readily available until somewhere in the 1930s, so I'm certain these photos are not the result of degradation of color photos.)


Gust guessing, but back in the 50's, instead of plain ol Sepia tone for B&W photos, both Selenium and Blue tone were quite popular. I wonder if possibly that might be the case, although I don't remember the 'Blue tone' ever being that vibrant.

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Feb 24, 2013 09:11:23   #
Papa Joe Loc: Midwest U.S.
 
Papa Joe wrote:
BillyDuds wrote:
In the attic of an old New England home, I came across a photo album from the early 1900s. All the photos in it are a lovely shade of blue. Would this have been their original color, or is it the result of some chemical change to B+W pics over the century or so since they were taken? (As best I can understand from Wikipedia, color film wasn't readily available until somewhere in the 1930s, so I'm certain these photos are not the result of degradation of color photos.)


Gust guessing, but back in the 50's, instead of plain ol Sepia tone for B&W photos, both Selenium and Blue tone were quite popular. I wonder if possibly that might be the case, although I don't remember the 'Blue tone' ever being that vibrant.
quote=BillyDuds In the attic of an old New Englan... (show quote)


(I really DO know how to spell 'just'. Slip of the finger up above:o)

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Feb 24, 2013 09:13:59   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Papa Joe wrote:
Papa Joe wrote:
BillyDuds wrote:
In the attic of an old New England home, I came across a photo album from the early 1900s. All the photos in it are a lovely shade of blue. Would this have been their original color, or is it the result of some chemical change to B+W pics over the century or so since they were taken? (As best I can understand from Wikipedia, color film wasn't readily available until somewhere in the 1930s, so I'm certain these photos are not the result of degradation of color photos.)


Gust guessing, but back in the 50's, instead of plain ol Sepia tone for B&W photos, both Selenium and Blue tone were quite popular. I wonder if possibly that might be the case, although I don't remember the 'Blue tone' ever being that vibrant.
quote=BillyDuds In the attic of an old New Englan... (show quote)


(I really DO know how to spell 'just'. Slip of the finger up above:o)
quote=Papa Joe quote=BillyDuds In the attic of a... (show quote)

Thanks for the clarification. I thought that was a midwest thing about estimating wind speed.

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Feb 24, 2013 09:19:01   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
I still use selenium toner on my prints. It cools the color a bit and makes them more archival. The longevity of inkjet prints in rather unknown at this point. Analog color prints have gotten better but still no where near silver gelatin prints. I wonder what the longevity of Cibachrome prints is?

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Feb 24, 2013 09:19:07   #
Papa Joe Loc: Midwest U.S.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Papa Joe wrote:
Papa Joe wrote:
BillyDuds wrote:
In the attic of an old New England home, I came across a photo album from the early 1900s. All the photos in it are a lovely shade of blue. Would this have been their original color, or is it the result of some chemical change to B+W pics over the century or so since they were taken? (As best I can understand from Wikipedia, color film wasn't readily available until somewhere in the 1930s, so I'm certain these photos are not the result of degradation of color photos.)


Gust guessing, but back in the 50's, instead of plain ol Sepia tone for B&W photos, both Selenium and Blue tone were quite popular. I wonder if possibly that might be the case, although I don't remember the 'Blue tone' ever being that vibrant.
quote=BillyDuds In the attic of an old New Englan... (show quote)


(I really DO know how to spell 'just'. Slip of the finger up above:o)
quote=Papa Joe quote=BillyDuds In the attic of a... (show quote)

Thanks for the clarification. I thought that was a midwest thing about estimating wind speed.
quote=Papa Joe quote=Papa Joe quote=BillyDuds I... (show quote)


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Feb 24, 2013 10:38:02   #
Phreedom Loc: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
 
jerryc41 wrote:
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Doddy wrote:
Well I have learned something new.


I think you learned something "old".


...from someone old?


"Everything old is new again
Everything under the sun..."

Lyrics from Barenaked Ladies - Everything Old Is New Again

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