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First attempt at object removal with GIMP
Nov 5, 2011 00:17:58   #
killer kanary lv Loc: Las Vegas, NV
 
Ok this is a first attempt ever with any software to remove an object. I think I'll have to stop drinking caffeine if I want to do this right. But I've included both the original and the edited for comparision and advice. Thanks. Note I am talking about the removal of the chair as you'll see in the replies below. I ncropped it more per suggestion that's edit 2. Then as the discussion below went on I got the idea to fill in the dirt spots ( dead grass) with the clone tool. Hey I can learn something after all :thumbup:

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Nov 5, 2011 00:27:04   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Yes, you cropped the image to remove the two distractions.

You may wish to crop up from the bottom as well, to tighten the framing in order to focus the viewer's attention on the main subject.

Note that almost all images benefit from some cropping.

Another technique involves the old saw: Get it right in the camera.

For example, you could have tried a different point of view that kept the two distractions out of the frame in the first place.

Learning photography takes practice. Keep at it, and good luck.

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Nov 5, 2011 00:31:57   #
killer kanary lv Loc: Las Vegas, NV
 
anotherview wrote:
Yes, you cropped the image to remove the two distractions.

You may wish to crop up from the bottom as well, to tighten the framing in order to focus the viewer's attention on the main subject.

Note that almost all images benefit from some cropping.

Another technique involves the old saw: Get it right in the camera.

For example, you could have tried a different point of view that kept the two distractions out of the frame in the first place.

Learning photography takes practice. Keep at it, and good luck.
Yes, you cropped the image to remove the two distr... (show quote)


Car show, no one around to remove the chair. I was talking about the removal of the chair not the cropping.

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Nov 5, 2011 00:38:02   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Oops. The removal of that chair appears flawless in the small images on my computer monitor. Which technique did you use?
killer kanary lv wrote:
anotherview wrote:
Yes, you cropped the image to remove the two distractions.

You may wish to crop up from the bottom as well, to tighten the framing in order to focus the viewer's attention on the main subject.

Note that almost all images benefit from some cropping.

Another technique involves the old saw: Get it right in the camera.

For example, you could have tried a different point of view that kept the two distractions out of the frame in the first place.

Learning photography takes practice. Keep at it, and good luck.
Yes, you cropped the image to remove the two distr... (show quote)


Car show, no one around to remove the chair. I was talking about the removal of the chair not the cropping.
quote=anotherview Yes, you cropped the image to r... (show quote)

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Nov 5, 2011 00:44:48   #
killer kanary lv Loc: Las Vegas, NV
 
anotherview wrote:
Oops.
killer kanary lv wrote:
anotherview wrote:
Yes, you cropped the image to remove the two distractions.

You may wish to crop up from the bottom as well, to tighten the framing in order to focus the viewer's attention on the main subject.

Note that almost all images benefit from some cropping.

Another technique involves the old saw: Get it right in the camera.

There I added another with the bottom cropped up. I have a fairly good idea how to crop having had graphic arts training, I just dropped out before we got to the more advanced object manipulation. And working with a point and shoot I've already learned that almost sitting on the subject works best to get a shot that needs minimal or no cropping.:) Car shows are darn near impossible to keep things out of the background. Thank you though for the advice it's appreciated and thanks for taking the time to look at it.

For example, you could have tried a different point of view that kept the two distractions out of the frame in the first place.

Learning photography takes practice. Keep at it, and good luck.
Yes, you cropped the image to remove the two distr... (show quote)


Car show, no one around to remove the chair. I was talking about the removal of the chair not the cropping.
quote=anotherview Yes, you cropped the image to r... (show quote)
Oops. quote=killer kanary lv quote=anotherview ... (show quote)


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Nov 5, 2011 00:48:04   #
killer kanary lv Loc: Las Vegas, NV
 
anotherview wrote:
Oops. The removal of that chair appears flawless in the small images on my computer monitor. Which technique did you use?
killer kanary lv wrote:
anotherview wrote:
Yes, you cropped the image to remove the two distractions.

You may wish to crop up from the bottom as well, to tighten the framing in order to focus the viewer's attention on the main subject.

Note that almost all images benefit from some cropping.

Another technique involves the old saw: Get it right in the camera.

For example, you could have tried a different point of view that kept the two distractions out of the frame in the first place.

Learning photography takes practice. Keep at it, and good luck.
Yes, you cropped the image to remove the two distr... (show quote)


Car show, no one around to remove the chair. I was talking about the removal of the chair not the cropping.
quote=anotherview Yes, you cropped the image to r... (show quote)
Oops. The removal of that chair appears flawless ... (show quote)

I used the clone tool and painted out the chair. The stage gave me fits. The grass came out good though. Used the smudge and heal tool also. And thanks for that comment, look on a bigger screen though I think you'll see the shaking..lol Not bad for a first attempt though I think.

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Nov 5, 2011 01:03:36   #
photogrl57 Loc: Tennessee
 
You did a great job taking out the chair .. kudos... especially with Gimp lol ... being a photoshop nut .. I never gave Gimp much of an effort to use. Way to go !

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Nov 5, 2011 01:09:24   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
The clone tool remains a basic tool I still use, and also the spot healing tool, for effective retouching of my images.

Let me please say, though, when CS5 came out with its content-aware feature, my editing life became much easier.

For example, to remove the chair using the clone tool and the content-aware fill tool, I'd clone along the edge of the hood until a clear separation existed between the two objects. Then I'd use the loop tool to select the rest of the chair, and call up content-aware fill. Typically, this tool would remove the rest of the chair and blend everything to look natural, as if the chair never existed.

It almost takes longer to describe than to do this edit.

Yeah, CS5 is expensive, but in my case I may spend hours at my computer editing. The content-aware feature has eliminated hours and hours of editing the old way. The cost of the program seems worth it to me.

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Nov 5, 2011 01:38:01   #
killer kanary lv Loc: Las Vegas, NV
 
anotherview wrote:
The clone tool remains a basic tool I still use, and also the spot healing tool, for effective retouching of my images.

Let me please say, though, when CS5 came out with its content-aware feature, my editing life became much easier.

For example, to remove the chair using the clone tool and the content-aware fill tool, I'd clone along the edge of the hood until a clear separation existed between the two objects. Then I'd use the loop tool to select the rest of the chair, and call up content-aware fill. Typically, this tool would remove the rest of the chair and blend everything to look natural, as if the chair never existed.

It almost takes longer to describe than to do this edit.

Yeah, CS5 is expensive, but in my case I may spend hours at my computer editing. The content-aware feature has eliminated hours and hours of editing the old way. The cost of the program seems worth it to me.
The clone tool remains a basic tool I still use, a... (show quote)


Yea editing this way sucks, but when you are working with a no string budget and it's just a hobby you work with what you got. I'm working more on exctly what you said get it right in the camera. Generally I can take decent photos that require only a crop and color adjustment, but again car shows are damn hard to get clean pics. The backgrounds are often un photogenic and a whole lot of signs and poles show up because of where the cars get parked. That's why I'm starting with car shows to force myself to concentrate on taking a good picture, not capture an image then manipulate it all to hell to produce a photo.I appreciate all your input, thank you so much.

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Nov 5, 2011 01:41:39   #
killer kanary lv Loc: Las Vegas, NV
 
photogrl57 wrote:
You did a great job taking out the chair .. kudos... especially with Gimp lol ... being a photoshop nut .. I never gave Gimp much of an effort to use. Way to go !


Thank you so much Photo. That means alot because again this was a first effort. I'd like to use PS then again I'd like to have an SLR, just playing and learning. The car owners in town like what I'm doing and I enjoy that. Shock the hell out of a lot of them when they see the camera I use. It's fun.

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Nov 5, 2011 02:03:25   #
photogrl57 Loc: Tennessee
 
killer kanary lv wrote:
photogrl57 wrote:
You did a great job taking out the chair .. kudos... especially with Gimp lol ... being a photoshop nut .. I never gave Gimp much of an effort to use. Way to go !


Thank you so much Photo. That means alot because again this was a first effort. I'd like to use PS then again I'd like to have an SLR, just playing and learning. The car owners in town like what I'm doing and I enjoy that. Shock the hell out of a lot of them when they see the camera I use. It's fun.



Yeah those cars would look great w/o all the clutter behind them but attempting to remove it all would prove futile due to that blue roof or whatever it is.... if you could see what appears to be mountains peeking over the top it would be a fairly simple fix between cloning the trees and the mtns. but really not worth the effort .. just not enough details I'm afraid ... Now if you would have stepped over to the water and took a pic of the other side of the lake .... you'd be in there ... Just something to keep in mind for future reference..However you are definitely on the right track :)

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Nov 5, 2011 10:29:45   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
The car shows present beauties of design, and yes, the clutter found near these beauties subtracts from the experience. Getting a decent picture of one offers a challenge. I like to take pictures of these old cars, so I just try for the best point of view.
photogrl57 wrote:
killer kanary lv wrote:
photogrl57 wrote:
You did a great job taking out the chair .. kudos... especially with Gimp lol ... being a photoshop nut .. I never gave Gimp much of an effort to use. Way to go !


Thank you so much Photo. That means alot because again this was a first effort. I'd like to use PS then again I'd like to have an SLR, just playing and learning. The car owners in town like what I'm doing and I enjoy that. Shock the hell out of a lot of them when they see the camera I use. It's fun.



Yeah those cars would look great w/o all the clutter behind them but attempting to remove it all would prove futile due to that blue roof or whatever it is.... if you could see what appears to be mountains peeking over the top it would be a fairly simple fix between cloning the trees and the mtns. but really not worth the effort .. just not enough details I'm afraid ... Now if you would have stepped over to the water and took a pic of the other side of the lake .... you'd be in there ... Just something to keep in mind for future reference..However you are definitely on the right track :)
quote=killer kanary lv quote=photogrl57 You did ... (show quote)







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Nov 5, 2011 10:33:03   #
photogrl57 Loc: Tennessee
 
Now those are some pampered cars ... nice shots :)

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Nov 5, 2011 10:38:12   #
killer kanary lv Loc: Las Vegas, NV
 
anotherview wrote:
The car shows present beauties of design, and yes, the clutter found near these beauties subtracts from the experience. Getting a decent picture of one offers a challenge. I like to take pictures of these old cars, so I just try for the best point of view.
photogrl57 wrote:
killer kanary lv wrote:
photogrl57 wrote:
You did a great job taking out the chair .. kudos... especially with Gimp lol ... being a photoshop nut .. I never gave Gimp much of an effort to use. Way to go !


Thank you so much Photo. That means alot because again this was a first effort. I'd like to use PS then again I'd like to have an SLR, just playing and learning. The car owners in town like what I'm doing and I enjoy that. Shock the hell out of a lot of them when they see the camera I use. It's fun.



Yeah those cars would look great w/o all the clutter behind them but attempting to remove it all would prove futile due to that blue roof or whatever it is.... if you could see what appears to be mountains peeking over the top it would be a fairly simple fix between cloning the trees and the mtns. but really not worth the effort .. just not enough details I'm afraid ... Now if you would have stepped over to the water and took a pic of the other side of the lake .... you'd be in there ... Just something to keep in mind for future reference..However you are definitely on the right track :)
quote=killer kanary lv quote=photogrl57 You did ... (show quote)
The car shows present beauties of design, and yes,... (show quote)


Again the point here was the first time I've used editing software to remove an object. I have several pictures that look exactly like that woody. The owner parked these cars perfectly for the type of shot I wanted to take. There's a specific reason I took it it from this angle, again art trained.

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Nov 5, 2011 11:09:20   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Yes, I once had an owner of a restored car go out of his way to move it to a shady grassy area with a wooden fence in the background. A red convertible Pontiac. I have to find it on my hard drive, for posting.
killer kanary lv wrote:
anotherview wrote:
The car shows present beauties of design, and yes, the clutter found near these beauties subtracts from the experience. Getting a decent picture of one offers a challenge. I like to take pictures of these old cars, so I just try for the best point of view.
photogrl57 wrote:
killer kanary lv wrote:
photogrl57 wrote:
You did a great job taking out the chair .. kudos... especially with Gimp lol ... being a photoshop nut .. I never gave Gimp much of an effort to use. Way to go !


Thank you so much Photo. That means alot because again this was a first effort. I'd like to use PS then again I'd like to have an SLR, just playing and learning. The car owners in town like what I'm doing and I enjoy that. Shock the hell out of a lot of them when they see the camera I use. It's fun.



Yeah those cars would look great w/o all the clutter behind them but attempting to remove it all would prove futile due to that blue roof or whatever it is.... if you could see what appears to be mountains peeking over the top it would be a fairly simple fix between cloning the trees and the mtns. but really not worth the effort .. just not enough details I'm afraid ... Now if you would have stepped over to the water and took a pic of the other side of the lake .... you'd be in there ... Just something to keep in mind for future reference..However you are definitely on the right track :)
quote=killer kanary lv quote=photogrl57 You did ... (show quote)
The car shows present beauties of design, and yes,... (show quote)


Again the point here was the first time I've used editing software to remove an object. I have several pictures that look exactly like that woody. The owner parked these cars perfectly for the type of shot I wanted to take. There's a specific reason I took it it from this angle, again art trained.
quote=anotherview The car shows present beauties ... (show quote)

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Rolls Royce, Oxnard, CA...

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