Gnslngr

1. “I have never believed in the general practice of carrying weapons,” said NRA President Karl T. Frederick, a 1920 Olympic gold-medal winner for marksmanship who became a lawyer, praising state gun control laws in Congress. He testified before the 1938 federal gun control law passed. “I do not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses.”

2. “We do think that any sane American, who calls himself an American, can object to placing into this [gun control] bill the instrument which killed the president of the United States,” NRA Executive Vice-President Franklin Orth told Congress, shortly after Lee Harvey Oswald shot and killed President John F. Kennedy with an Italian military surplus rifle Oswald bought from a mail-order ad in the NRA’sAmerican Rifleman magazine.

3. “There’s no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons,” said California Gov. Ronald Reagan in May 1967, after two dozen Black Panther Party members walked into the California Statehouse carrying rifles to protest a gun-control bill. Reagan said guns were “a ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will.”

4. “You do know that I am a member of the NRA and my position on the right to bear arms is well known,” Reagan said, speaking out in support of the 1994 Brady bill to create new background checks and a waiting period for gun buyers. “But I want you to know something else, and I am going to say it in clear, unmistakable language: I support the Brady Bill and I urge Congress to enact it without further delay.”

5. “To ‘keep and bear arms’ for hunting today is essentially a recreational activity and not an imperative of survival, as it was 200 years ago; ‘Saturday night specials’ [handguns] and machine guns are not recreational weapons and surely are as much in need of regulation as motor vehicles,” said retired U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Warren Burger in Parade magazine, in January 1990.

6. The Second Amendment “has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime,” Burger told PBS’ News Hour in late 1991, referring to the NRA’s claim that the U.S. Constitution included a personal right to own guns.

7. “These people are crazy,” said Alan Gura, referring to NRA critics who said he’d ceded too much to gun control arguments when he successfully argued before the U.S. Supreme Court in March 2008 to overturn the District of Columbia’s handgun ban and establish a Second Amendment right to a handgun at home for self-defense. “I could have, if I wanted to, stood before the Court and said, ‘Yes, [the Amendment’s clause] shall not be infringed,’ means you would never have any gun laws, and of course need to all have machine guns in case we want to overthrow the government, and while we’re at it we should have rocket launchers and stinger missiles. And that would have probably made me very popular in some cabin somewhere out there in the woods… Of course, I would have lost 9-0.”

pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts

I hope you never have to hold a gun,I fear you would faint and have a fatal heart attack.

cameraniac Loc: Huntingburg, Indiana

I erased my reply and decided to be nice to gnslngr, today.

cameraniac Loc: Huntingburg, Indiana

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

Why? Is it his birthday or something? He no longer responds to my comments so give him hell when you can. :lol: :thumbup:

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

Stand next to him and release a good fart and watch him dive for cover. :lol: :thumbup:

Jim_In_Plymouth Loc: Plymouth MN

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Reddog Loc: Southern Calif

Funny how some folks get offended by just hearing quotes!

ole sarg Loc: south florida

Of those above, please tell me if you have ever been shot at.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

Of those above, please tell me if you have ever been shot at.

heyrob Loc: Western Washington

If the old adage is true that "Ignorance is Bliss" those on the side of gun control must be one happy bunch of fools.

I never cease to be amazed at the total ignorance of so many Americans as to the purpose and need for the 2nd amendment. First and foremost is the very fact that it is not the constitution that gives us our rights, but as stated in the Declaration of Independence “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights…” so in plain English, we are born with these rights and no one has the right to infringe upon them.
The Constitution is nothing more than our guarantee papers.

I’ve heard people say things like “Well the founders never dreamed of automatic weapons like the AR15, all they had were old muzzle loaders. That's right, and I guarantee that if you study the founders (as I have) they would have embraced the new technology with enthusiasm!

The second amendment, no our birth right to guns, has nothing to do with target shooting, hunting or any other recreational use. It’s about being able to keep ourselves and our country safe from those who would do us harm (foreign & domestic). You think you want gun control? Look at Washington DC and Chicago, two of the most gun restrictive cities in the country, they also have some of the highest gun crime rates in the country. By comparison, look at Kennesaw Georgia, in 1982 the city unanimously passed an ordinance requiring heads of households to own at least one firearm with ammunition. The results are long since in… the crime rate dropped 89 percent in the city, compared to the modest 10 percent drop statewide, and the rate has remained low ever since.

Robert Heinlein said it best “An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” Meaning simply that if you believe that those you would attempt do do wrong to, may be able to protect themselves, you’re more likely to be very civil in your actions. I believe that Kennesaw has proved that to be true.

Besides as George Madison pointed out "...to disarm the people - that is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." (3 Elliot, Debates at 380). It worked for Stalin & Hitler and other tyrants throughout history. Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I for one refuse to become a slave.

Reddog Loc: Southern Calif

I have been shot at, have had one partner killed and one wounded and have shot two people in my career in Law enforcement. The person shooting at me in one incident was going for head shots and missed by several inches.

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

"I have been shot at, have had one partner killed and one wounded and have shot two people in my career in Law enforcement. The person shooting at me in one incident was going for head shots and missed by several inches"

How would your senerio above have changed if the proposed new gun laws were passed years ago?

Reddog Loc: Southern Calif

I was lucky neither incident had assault weapons involved. I own 5 handguns and several rifles but am against 30 round mags or assault rifles, sanity must prevail! It seems that you are branded anti gun if you want any controls which seems insane to me. I still remember the NRA before they were controlled by the Gun lobby, it was a grate organization at one time. More guns is not the answer!!!! Killings will continue, my partner was killed by a 22 round that just bounced around inside him. I am not naive enough to think shootings will stop with a ban, but even if only one child is saved in a mass shooting than we must do what we can. We don't stop Cancer research because Heart disease kills more people, so the ban automobile argument is just plain stupid! God bless this great Country!!!

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

[quote=ReddogI was lucky neither incident had assault weapons involved........ but even if only one child is saved in a mass shooting than we must do what we can........the ban automobile argument is just plain stupid!/quote]

First let me say that I would never have wanted a dangerous job like yours and I take my hat off to you about that.

Second, you have basically said that the current gun law proposals would not have saved your partner, nor would have prevented a bad guy from shooting at you. In addition, the proposed gun laws would not have prevented the Sandy Hook shooting.

Third, why not put governors on cars so they won't go over 30 MPH, since a lot more than "one life would be saved".