What Lenses for Tip
Jan 18, 2013 22:57:30 #
Many people have posted questions about what lenses they should take on a trip. Suppose money were literally no object, and the destination was over two billion miles away.
It's the question NASA had to answer a few years ago when they sent the Cassini spacecraft to Saturn. So what did they decide? The craft has one tele and one wide angle. Let that be a lesson to all of you who wonder what to bring on a trip. :D
I recently watched an entertaining hour about the mission, and it seemed like science fiction. Cassini is over two billion miles away, and it is receiving orders from Earth and sending back images - about fifteen years after it was launched.
It's the question NASA had to answer a few years ago when they sent the Cassini spacecraft to Saturn. So what did they decide? The craft has one tele and one wide angle. Let that be a lesson to all of you who wonder what to bring on a trip. :D
I recently watched an entertaining hour about the mission, and it seemed like science fiction. Cassini is over two billion miles away, and it is receiving orders from Earth and sending back images - about fifteen years after it was launched.
Jan 18, 2013 23:03:49 #
olcoach
Loc: Oregon
Jerry, Another interesting post. I always wondered what to take to Saturn. Did it give any info as to what cameras these lens were attached to? Fun to think about. Have fun and keep shootin'. Mike
Jan 18, 2013 23:23:57 #
The Russians already have a lens to take to Jupiter:
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_(lenses)
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_(lenses)
Jan 18, 2013 23:25:07 #
Imaging Science Subsystem (ISS) on the CassiniHuygens spacecraft.
The ISS is a remote sensing instrument that captures most images in visible light, and also some infrared images and ultraviolet images. The ISS has taken hundreds of thousands of images of Saturn, its rings, and its moons, for return to the Earth by radio telemetry. The ISS has a wide-angle camera (WAC) that takes pictures of large areas, and a narrow-angle camera (NAC) that takes pictures of small areas in fine detail. Each of these cameras uses a sensitive charge-coupled device (CCD) as its electromagnetic wave detector. Each CCD has a 1,024 square array of pixels, 12 μm on a side. Both cameras allow for many data collection modes, including on-chip data compression. Both cameras are fitted with spectral filters that rotate on a wheelto view different bands within the electromagnetic spectrum ranging from 0.2 to 1.1 μm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassini%E2%80%93Huygens
The ISS is a remote sensing instrument that captures most images in visible light, and also some infrared images and ultraviolet images. The ISS has taken hundreds of thousands of images of Saturn, its rings, and its moons, for return to the Earth by radio telemetry. The ISS has a wide-angle camera (WAC) that takes pictures of large areas, and a narrow-angle camera (NAC) that takes pictures of small areas in fine detail. Each of these cameras uses a sensitive charge-coupled device (CCD) as its electromagnetic wave detector. Each CCD has a 1,024 square array of pixels, 12 μm on a side. Both cameras allow for many data collection modes, including on-chip data compression. Both cameras are fitted with spectral filters that rotate on a wheelto view different bands within the electromagnetic spectrum ranging from 0.2 to 1.1 μm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassini%E2%80%93Huygens
Jan 18, 2013 23:30:56 #
GoofyNewfie wrote:
The Russians already have a lens to take to Jupiter:
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_(lenses)
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_(lenses)
If it's Russian, then it's a copy of a US model. Did you ever see their space shuttle?
Jan 18, 2013 23:33:36 #
jerryc41 wrote:
If it's Russian, then it's a copy of a US model. Did you ever see their space shuttle?
GoofyNewfie wrote:
The Russians already have a lens to take to Jupiter:
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_(lenses)
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_(lenses)
If it's Russian, then it's a copy of a US model. Did you ever see their space shuttle?
Can you say "Clone"?
Jan 18, 2013 23:42:45 #
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Can you say "Clone"?
jerryc41 wrote:
If it's Russian, then it's a copy of a US model. Did you ever see their space shuttle?
GoofyNewfie wrote:
The Russians already have a lens to take to Jupiter:
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_(lenses)
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_(lenses)
If it's Russian, then it's a copy of a US model. Did you ever see their space shuttle?
Can you say "Clone"?
Without us, they'd be a generation or two behind in technology.
Jan 19, 2013 00:44:09 #
Interesting. At that distance, a radio signal takes about three hours to reach the space craft. Man, talk about shutter delay!
Jan 19, 2013 06:18:47 #
Without us, they'd be a generation or two behind in technology.[/quote]
Aye, just like putting the first man-made object into space (Sputnik October 1957) - The first man into space (Yuri Gagarin April 12 1961) not to mention the first man-made object to land on (hit) the moon (Luna 2, 14 Sept 1959) or the first woman into space (cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova, just 20 years & 2 days before Sally Ride). Valentina, by the way, married another cosmonaut Andrian Nikolayev, they had a daughter, Elena, born 1964 who was the first child on earth to a mother and father who had both traveled in space.
Neil may have been the first man on the moon, a great triumph, but don't forget (or try to rewrite) the history of space exploration.
Many Americans still think the monies given to NASA and other space projects today would be better spent on the needs of USA.
Maybe Russia thought the same and decided to leave space until they needed it.
Quote "Lest we forget"
Aye, just like putting the first man-made object into space (Sputnik October 1957) - The first man into space (Yuri Gagarin April 12 1961) not to mention the first man-made object to land on (hit) the moon (Luna 2, 14 Sept 1959) or the first woman into space (cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova, just 20 years & 2 days before Sally Ride). Valentina, by the way, married another cosmonaut Andrian Nikolayev, they had a daughter, Elena, born 1964 who was the first child on earth to a mother and father who had both traveled in space.
Neil may have been the first man on the moon, a great triumph, but don't forget (or try to rewrite) the history of space exploration.
Many Americans still think the monies given to NASA and other space projects today would be better spent on the needs of USA.
Maybe Russia thought the same and decided to leave space until they needed it.
Quote "Lest we forget"
Jan 19, 2013 07:03:47 #
leither wrote:
quote=jerryc41 Without us, they'd be a generation... (show quote)
Except for putting a man on the moon, the Russians (with the help of their captured WWII Germans) were the first with just about everything in space. When we decided to put a rover on Mars, we had a Russian designer come over here and tell us how to design one, since they had already landed a rover on Mars.
Their accomplishments get very little publicity here.
Jan 19, 2013 07:44:33 #
jerryc41 wrote:
If it's Russian, then it's a copy of a US model. Did you ever see their space shuttle?
GoofyNewfie wrote:
The Russians already have a lens to take to Jupiter:
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_(lenses)
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_(lenses)
If it's Russian, then it's a copy of a US model. Did you ever see their space shuttle?
Did you ever see their Concordski?
Jan 19, 2013 07:47:31 #
Dartmoor Walker wrote:
Did you ever see their Concordski?
jerryc41 wrote:
If it's Russian, then it's a copy of a US model. Did you ever see their space shuttle?
GoofyNewfie wrote:
The Russians already have a lens to take to Jupiter:
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_(lenses)
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_(lenses)
If it's Russian, then it's a copy of a US model. Did you ever see their space shuttle?
Did you ever see their Concordski?
I guess great minds think alike. :D
There was a military documentary on TV a few years ago. An American military plane had mechanical trouble and landed in Russia (Soviet Union). The crew was finally released, but Russia kept the plane. A couple of years later, they introduced an almost identical Russian plane.
Jan 19, 2013 08:03:14 #
jerryc41 wrote:
quote=Dartmoor Walker quote=jerryc41 quote=Goof... (show quote)
Great isn't it!!
As concord was a British & French project, both nations had production sites. The Russians were alway trying to get hold of Concord plans, they particularly wanted the formular for the landing gear tyres, knowing that the Russians had infiltrated the workforce, the French left plans out for them with the formular for the rubber tyres, the Russians copied them, but when it came to manufacturing, the tyres they produced were nothing more than bubblegum.
Made me laugh anyway, Industrial espionage at it best!!!
Anyway, I think I digress too much for this thread. hehe lol
Jan 19, 2013 08:15:03 #
Dartmoor Walker wrote:
...knowing that the Russians had infiltrated the workforce, the French left plans out for them with the formular for the rubber tyres, the Russians copied them, but when it came to manufacturing, the tyres they produced were nothing more than bubblegum.
I love that idea, but I guess spies know that not everything they find is legitimate. Remember "The Man Who never Was" from WWII? It's very difficult to fool the experts, but it can be done.
Jan 19, 2013 08:23:35 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I love that idea, but I guess spies know that not everything they find is legitimate. Remember "The Man Who never Was" from WWII? It's very difficult to fool the experts, but it can be done.
Dartmoor Walker wrote:
...knowing that the Russians had infiltrated the workforce, the French left plans out for them with the formular for the rubber tyres, the Russians copied them, but when it came to manufacturing, the tyres they produced were nothing more than bubblegum.
I love that idea, but I guess spies know that not everything they find is legitimate. Remember "The Man Who never Was" from WWII? It's very difficult to fool the experts, but it can be done.
Yep, remember that well, and It has been going on since time in memorial, mind you, you probably have to play very clever to get away with it these days, specially with all the (so called) experts & technology we have these days.
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time". Abraham Lincoln ... Oh so true!!!!
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