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Jan 14, 2013 04:45:42   #
Sefferdog Loc: Ocala, Fl
 
I got this capture of a red shouldered hawk yesterday morning and love it, although the sky behind is nothing. What are your thoughts about adding a background sky to make this more appealing for printing?





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Jan 14, 2013 04:54:38   #
CORNISH Loc: CORNWALL, UK
 
Sefferdog wrote:
I got this capture of a red shouldered hawk yesterday morning and love it, although the sky behind is nothing. What are your thoughts about adding a background sky to make this more appealing for printing?


Hi Sefferdog, I makes a much better picture with the sky added, I like it :thumbup:

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Jan 14, 2013 05:03:18   #
macro2009 Loc: Cheshire United Kingdom
 
Sefferdog wrote:
I got this capture of a red shouldered hawk yesterday morning and love it, although the sky behind is nothing. What are your thoughts about adding a background sky to make this more appealing for printing?


Definitely a much better image plus sky. I think that this PP technique is acceptable and many debates for the pros and cons have taken place over the years.

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Jan 14, 2013 05:05:33   #
BigAl Loc: Lincs UK
 
Sefferdog wrote:
I got this capture of a red shouldered hawk yesterday morning and love it, although the sky behind is nothing. What are your thoughts about adding a background sky to make this more appealing for printing?


The new sky looks better to me but when downloaded you have a slight halo on his back and the log, smashing shot either way :thumbup:

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Jan 14, 2013 05:14:49   #
Sefferdog Loc: Ocala, Fl
 
Bigal wrote:


The new sky looks better to me but when downloaded you have a slight halo on his back and the log, smashing shot either way :thumbup:


Yes, this was just a quick and dirty addition to get some comments. I would clean it up if I were going to keep t.

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Jan 14, 2013 05:34:45   #
BigAl Loc: Lincs UK
 
Sefferdog wrote:
Bigal wrote:


The new sky looks better to me but when downloaded you have a slight halo on his back and the log, smashing shot either way :thumbup:


Yes, this was just a quick and dirty addition to get some comments. I would clean it up if I were going to keep t.


Great, I have tried on some of mine but its hard to get them to look natural (well for me it is) Go for it :thumbup:

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Jan 14, 2013 06:07:02   #
Deejaysr2013 Loc: Canada
 
Sefferdog wrote:
I got this capture of a red shouldered hawk yesterday morning and love it, although the sky behind is nothing. What are your thoughts about adding a background sky to make this more appealing for printing?


In my humble opinion , if it makes the picture more complete then I don't call it cheating. It is enhancing. Good shots .Thank you for sharing.

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Jan 14, 2013 06:08:39   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
Why is it cheating, you combined two images as we all used to in slide sandwiches in the days back when we used slide film

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Jan 14, 2013 06:09:01   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
Darn good photo by the way from a great angle with good detail, I do wish people would help others by saying what they use to take the photo though

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Jan 14, 2013 06:23:02   #
Sefferdog Loc: Ocala, Fl
 
JR1 wrote:
Darn good photo by the way from a great angle with good detail, I do wish people would help others by saying what they use to take the photo though


Canon 60D with a 70-300L lens, all the way out to 300.

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Jan 14, 2013 14:22:14   #
Wendy2 Loc: California
 
Love it both ways, but the sky really does add to it. The bird gets a little lost with the sky though. Not sure whether you should lighten the sky or darken it to make the bird stand out more. Because you want the bird to be the focal point, maybe use a less complicated sky.

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Jan 14, 2013 14:27:13   #
tilde531 Loc: Seaford Delaware
 
It's not "cheating". You've just taken it from a documentary photo to an artistic rendering.

Neither are "right or wrong".

I would be inclined to do something similar with that particular shot, as your capture of the hawk is great but, as you've said, the background was not!

You could just as easily put a solid color background or something else even... but I like your sky choice for it's colors more than anything else.

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Jan 14, 2013 14:28:56   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
I agree with Wendy. The picture is better with a nice sky, but the sky needs to be lightened a little and perhaps have a tiny blue tint added

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Jan 14, 2013 14:29:48   #
jadeast Loc: Virginia
 
By all means change the sky but before you merge everything into one layer try to match the ambient colors a little better and the direction of the light source. this one's a keeper with a little tuning, good job!

J D

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Jan 14, 2013 14:45:32   #
ftpecktim Loc: MONTANA
 
JR1 wrote:
Darn good photo by the way from a great angle with good detail, I do wish people would help others by saying what they use to take the photo though


Jr1 [quote]General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk) -> Anyone on the forum from the UK (go to message) Oct 9, 12 14:43:56
I don't get on well on so called "photo forums" there appears to be too many "my camera is better than your camera" and "you don't use one of THOSE do you"

You will not see me list my gear here

It's what/who is behind the camera that matters

:?:

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