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Dec 13, 2012 21:40:43   #
NoSocks Loc: quonochontaug, rhode island
 
Speaking of Lightroom, I have loaded PSE 11 and am just starting to learn it. I'm very interested in reorganizing my photos but found the Organizer in PSE to be cumbersome in applying keywords. Lightroom, as mainly a cataloging piece of software might be my answer if key wording is seamless and easy. I'd like to add a keyword by clicking from a list but I don't know if that exists. So, what is Lightroom like for organizing?

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Dec 13, 2012 22:23:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
quonnie wrote:
Speaking of Lightroom, I have loaded PSE 11 and am just starting to learn it. I'm very interested in reorganizing my photos but found the Organizer in PSE to be cumbersome in applying keywords. Lightroom, as mainly a cataloging piece of software might be my answer if key wording is seamless and easy. I'd like to add a keyword by clicking from a list but I don't know if that exists. So, what is Lightroom like for organizing?


Avatar. I can just picture you ordering something on the phone and telling the person on the other end the name of the town where you live. My street has an odd name - so does my town - and I just automatically spell both of them.

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Dec 13, 2012 23:13:31   #
sloscheider Loc: Minnesota
 
LR gives you several ways of adding keywords. There is a list to choose from but I've rarely used it....

When importing I just click in the keyword box and start typeing like "Amer" and American Eskimo Dog auto fills & I just hit enter and start typing the next keyword placing a coma between each key.

I you have already imported the photos and want to add keywords you can grab the Spray Can tool, type in all the key words you want to apply and spray any photo(s) you want to paint with the key words.

There may be other ways to add keywords but those are the two ways I generally do it.



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Dec 14, 2012 07:30:17   #
Iduno Loc: Near Tampa Florida
 
Lightroom is the better organizer by far (imho) and I think a superior application for 90% of your photo editing tasks. Since PSE is only used for 10% of my photos I haven't learned to be very efficient with it. Both software's are excellent and photographers I talk with all have both.
One other thing. Lightroom doesn't have face recognition which PSE does. Hopefully that will change with the next release as I still do family events.

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Dec 14, 2012 07:58:01   #
ejrmaine Loc: South Carolina
 
In addition to LR4 being a great organizer, it works seamlessly with PSE11. You can make PSE adjustments on a copy or on the original and the adjusted image remains in your LR4 catalog.



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Dec 14, 2012 10:49:52   #
NoSocks Loc: quonochontaug, rhode island
 
jerryc41 wrote:
quonnie wrote:
Speaking of Lightroom, I have loaded PSE 11 and am just starting to learn it. I'm very interested in reorganizing my photos but found the Organizer in PSE to be cumbersome in applying keywords. Lightroom, as mainly a cataloging piece of software might be my answer if key wording is seamless and easy. I'd like to add a keyword by clicking from a list but I don't know if that exists. So, what is Lightroom like for organizing?


Avatar. I can just picture you ordering something on the phone and telling the person on the other end the name of the town where you live. My street has an odd name - so does my town - and I just automatically spell both of them.
quote=quonnie Speaking of Lightroom, I have loade... (show quote)


It isn't too bad. Quonochontaug, or "Quonnie" as everyone calls it, is really a small section of Charlestown, RI which is much easier but no where near as interesting. My avatar is taken near one of the landmark rocks on the Quonochontaug beach and it is ever changing.

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Dec 14, 2012 11:37:46   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
quonnie wrote:
Speaking of Lightroom, I have loaded PSE 11 and am just starting to learn it. I'm very interested in reorganizing my photos but found the Organizer in PSE to be cumbersome in applying keywords. Lightroom, as mainly a cataloging piece of software might be my answer if key wording is seamless and easy. I'd like to add a keyword by clicking from a list but I don't know if that exists. So, what is Lightroom like for organizing?


I have both and find Keywording easier to use in the Elements Organizer than in Lightroom.

If you haven't done so get Kelby and Kloskowski's book on Elements.

In the Organizer you can highlight bunches of pictures and just drag the keyword icon to one of them to apply it to all of them. Lightroom doesn't let you drag the icons: you have to click on the keyword. In both cases I do it immeditately upon import.

Elements has other search features that are better than Lightoroom such as visual search and automatically suggesting people keywords.

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Dec 14, 2012 11:39:25   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Iduno wrote:
Lightroom is the better organizer by far (imho) and I think a superior application for 90% of your photo editing tasks. Since PSE is only used for 10% of my photos I haven't learned to be very efficient with it. Both software's are excellent and photographers I talk with all have both.
One other thing. Lightroom doesn't have face recognition which PSE does. Hopefully that will change with the next release as I still do family events.


So what makes you think Lightroom is a better organizer?

I have both and disagree completely. I like the Elements Organizer and find Lightroom clunky.

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Dec 14, 2012 11:47:59   #
GC likes NIKON Loc: East Greenwich, Rhode Island
 
quonnie wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
quonnie wrote:
Speaking of Lightroom, I have loaded PSE 11 and am just starting to learn it. I'm very interested in reorganizing my photos but found the Organizer in PSE to be cumbersome in applying keywords. Lightroom, as mainly a cataloging piece of software might be my answer if key wording is seamless and easy. I'd like to add a keyword by clicking from a list but I don't know if that exists. So, what is Lightroom like for organizing?


Avatar. I can just picture you ordering something on the phone and telling the person on the other end the name of the town where you live. My street has an odd name - so does my town - and I just automatically spell both of them.
quote=quonnie Speaking of Lightroom, I have loade... (show quote)


It isn't too bad. Quonochontaug, or "Quonnie" as everyone calls it, is really a small section of Charlestown, RI which is much easier but no where near as interesting. My avatar is taken near one of the landmark rocks on the Quonochontaug beach and it is ever changing.
quote=jerryc41 quote=quonnie Speaking of Lightro... (show quote)


Hello from East Greenwich !!! Right up the coast !!

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Dec 14, 2012 14:08:57   #
sloscheider Loc: Minnesota
 
MtnMan wrote:
In the Organizer you can highlight bunches of pictures and just drag the keyword icon to one of them to apply it to all of them. Lightroom doesn't let you drag the icons: you have to click on the keyword. In both cases I do it immeditately upon import.

Elements has other search features that are better than Lightoroom such as visual search and automatically suggesting people keywords.


Have you tried using the Paint Can for applying keywords in LR? You can do many keywords at once.

I agree that LR lack the visual search / face recognition functions - perhaps in a few months when LR 5 comes out :)

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Dec 14, 2012 14:52:14   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
sloscheider wrote:


Have you tried using the Paint Can for applying keywords in LR? You can do many keywords at once.

I agree that LR lack the visual search / face recognition functions - perhaps in a few months when LR 5 comes out :)


Thanks...yes, I recently learned about it from UHH and then found a video on it. It wasn't showing when I first loaded Lightroom. I now know how to reactivate it if it goes away.

Yes, it is cool. I need to use it more.

I don't think Elements has the spray can...need to check 11. But in Elements Organizer once you have highlighted a bunch of images you can drag over as many keywords as you want and they'll all stick to all the hightlighted photos. You only need drop it on one of the highlighted photos.

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Dec 14, 2012 23:18:53   #
NoSocks Loc: quonochontaug, rhode island
 
Hello from East Greenwich !!! Right up the coast !![/quote]

hey east Greenwich! we should get together for a shoot sometime.

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