Must Israel kill all the Palestinians to get a one state solution?
Most internet bloggers seem vague on the subject, but they seem open to the suggestion.
Just as there seems to be no solution to the entire 75 years-long Arab-Israeli animosity, there seems to be no clean, clear answer to this. They can't eliminate all Palestinians. It's not possible and they shouldn't try. But they are creating more Palestinian hatred every day. Those children being victimized will remember this. However, they won't blame Hamas for starting a stupid armed conflict with a much better armed Israel. They will blame Israel and the cycle will start again.
I've seen a movie titled "The Kingdom". Premise is a bomb planted by Saudi terrorists in Riyadh followed by random killings at the American compound by terrorists dressed as Saudi police; large loss of life including a number of Americans. Four FBI agents go "rogue", heading to Iraq to investigate the death of a fellow agent. In the end, there's a huge shoot-out, killing the bad guys.
In the conversation at the end, Jason Bateman's character asks Jamie Foxx what he said to get Jennifer Garner to stop crying. Foxx replied,
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I told her we were gonna kill 'em all.
At the same instant, a young Saudi was asked by his mother what his grandfather said before he died of his wounds.
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Don't fear them, my child. We are going to kill them all.
This is the end game. There will be peace when someone wins.
Caribou wrote:
They can't eliminate all Palestinians. It's not possible and they shouldn't try.
How can Israel obtain their goal of a one state solution?
It would appear that adjacent countries don't wany any more Palestinians and almost half of the Palestinians still support Hamas. It's hard to understand how anyone could support Hamas, who butchered people and appeared to be pure evil.
travelwp wrote:
How can Israel obtain their goal of a one state solution?
It would appear that adjacent countries don't wany any more Palestinians and almost half of the Palestinians still support Hamas. It's hard to understand how anyone could support Hamas, who butchered people and appeared to be pure evil.
Hamas' aid and support flows directly, or indirectly, through Iran. First thing, shut down Iran's money supply - oil exports. No oil revenue, no terrorism. If Iranians starve, too bad.
pendennis wrote:
Hamas' aid and support flows directly, or indirectly, through Iran. First thing, shut down Iran's money supply - oil exports. No oil revenue, no terrorism. If Iranians starve, too bad.
So how do we do that when Joe Biden releases $6 billion back to Iran? What an idiot he is.
Racmanaz wrote:
So how do we do that when Joe Biden releases $6 billion back to Iran? What an idiot he is.
The Left has been supporting Iran for years. Yes POS Biden and his supporters are idiots for ever thinking Iran and America can be friends. Yet they continue supporting Iran in every way begging for Iran to like America. It ain't gonna happen.
Dennis
pendennis wrote:
First thing, shut down Iran's money supply - oil exports. No oil revenue, no terrorism.
It would appear that in the US, "dril, drill, drill" will solve that.
travelwp wrote:
It would appear that in the US, "dril, drill, drill" will solve that.
Yes but the answer from the Left is buy, buy, buy from other countries.
Dennis
dennis2146 wrote:
The Left has been supporting Iran for years. Yes POS Biden and his supporters are idiots for ever thinking Iran and America can be friends. Yet they continue supporting Iran in every way begging for Iran to like America. It ain't gonna happen.
Dennis
Devin Connolly is a friend of MIR who used to be a Tour Manager and led travelers on journeys to many countries, including Iran, a land she loves.
To say that relations between Americans and Iranians are often misunderstood would be putting it mildly. So many Americans are convinced that Iranians hate us that they react with skepticism when I say that, in my experience, the exact opposite is true. Iranians are very welcoming of foreigners, especially Americans (notice that I didn’t say “even Americans”).
https://www.mircorp.com/how-do-iranians-really-feel-about-americans/
Kraken wrote:
Devin Connolly is a friend of MIR who used to be a Tour Manager and led travelers on journeys to many countries, including Iran, a land she loves.
To say that relations between Americans and Iranians are often misunderstood would be putting it mildly. So many Americans are convinced that Iranians hate us that they react with skepticism when I say that, in my experience, the exact opposite is true. Iranians are very welcoming of foreigners, especially Americans (notice that I didn’t say “even Americans”).
https://www.mircorp.com/how-do-iranians-really-feel-about-americans/Devin Connolly is a friend of MIR who used to be a... (
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For once we might even agree. I have a couple of friends who are Iranian and are now living in America. One came here just before the Shah was thrown out years ago. She tells me Iran was once very friendly to America, women went to the beautiful beaches wearing bikini bathing suits and so on. The Shah of Iran was well into hunting and invited numerous Americans to hunt sheep in Iran. Yes it was a great country and its people got along with Americans. All true.
BUT then the religious overthrow came. The LEADERS of Iran, the Mullahs, decided to throw their own people back on 800 years into the dark ages. The religious leaders took over and decided to hate America and have pushed that narrative of hate ever since.
But back to what I was saying. The people of Iran may very well love Americans and want to live the Western ways but that isn't going to happen is it while the LEADERS of Iran dominate the people. It isn't the people of Iran our Left Wing leaning Socialist government is sucking up to but the religious leaders who DO hate America and have threatened to blow us off the planet with nuclear bombs. How do you on the Left forget that part. The people of Iran have no say in the matter do they?
Dennis
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
Caribou wrote:
Just as there seems to be no solution to the entire 75 years-long Arab-Israeli animosity, there seems to be no clean, clear answer to this. They can't eliminate all Palestinians. It's not possible and they shouldn't try. But they are creating more Palestinian hatred every day. Those children being victimized will remember this. However, they won't blame Hamas for starting a stupid armed conflict with a much better armed Israel. They will blame Israel and the cycle will start again.
The answer is simple. - a two state solution negotiated fairly between sides with none of the one sidedness of the last. One that is fair to both side and lets people ( Israeli and Palestinian) live where they want .
DennyT wrote:
The answer is simple. - a two state solution negotiated fairly between sides with none of the one sidedness of the last. One that is fair to both side and lets people ( Israeli and Palestinian) live where they want .
Sounds wonderful. Any ideas about how to stop Palestinian Hamas from attacking and literally butchering Israelis as happened back on October 7th. Any ideas about why nobody is forcing Hamas to release hostages taken that day and are still being held against their will? Seems as if those are 2 major concerns held by the Israelis.
Dennis
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
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