If you haven’t tried this paper, you have done yourself a disservice. You absolutely must. I just printed three images using 44” roll paper on my Canon Pro-4100 and it blew my mind. Putting it behind glass would feel like a waste, but I suppose I’ll have to. A 2.5” border on a 9x12 print would seem wasteful but for handling and cutting, it’s perfect. My homemade de-curler is getting a workout. The paper has the tightest curl of any paper I’ve ever used.
Anyway, I just wanted to share my experience.
IIRC baryta is titanium oxide, which is the absolute whitest substance known.
terryMc
Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
There is no profile for my printer, an Epson Eco Tank (which is not archival ink), and this paper is expensive. As a hobbyist, I'll probably just have stay with the cheaper stuff.
You might consider not using glass. On a recent workshop I was persuaded to try this and the transformation of my images was striking. In a non hostile environmet pritns made with pigment inks last very well only needing occasional gentle dusting. I urge you to try this!
Jklovell wrote:
If you haven’t tried this paper, you have done yourself a disservice. You absolutely must. I just printed three images using 44” roll paper on my Canon Pro-4100 and it blew my mind. Putting it behind glass would feel like a waste, but I suppose I’ll have to. A 2.5” border on a 9x12 print would seem wasteful but for handling and cutting, it’s perfect. My homemade de-curler is getting a workout. The paper has the tightest curl of any paper I’ve ever used.
Anyway, I just wanted to share my experience.
If you haven’t tried this paper, you have done you... (
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Tightest curl? Is that from it soaking up a lot of ink used for this paper? Or what causes the curl?
tcthome wrote:
Tightest curl? Is that from it soaking up a lot of ink used for this paper? Or what causes the curl?
Inherent curl from being on a roll, not a sheet.
terryMc wrote:
There is no profile for my printer, an Epson Eco Tank (which is not archival ink), and this paper is expensive. As a hobbyist, I'll probably just have stay with the cheaper stuff.
Great to hear that. Keep on keepin on ...
I will second Baryta papers. My favorite was Ilford Gold Fiber Silk, used it for over 10 years until they lost their supplier. If you want to know How good Baryta coated paper is, try to find Michale Reichman's Old article "Battle of the Barytas" He reviewed the Ilford, Canon and Hahnemule offerings and picked Ilford --I'm down to my last roll.
The Great B&W Fiber based Printing papers were all Baryta coated so it even has a familiar smell.
Because of the whiteness of Baryta, the papers also exhibit some of the widest color Gamuts and contrast ranges.
They really benefit from the 11 ink 10 Channel Pigment inks in the high end Epson Photo Printers.
Results can be stunning.
MJPerini wrote:
I will second Baryta papers. My favorite was Ilford Gold Fiber Silk, used it for over 10 years until they lost their supplier. If you want to know How good Baryta coated paper is, try to find Michale Reichman's Old article "Battle of the Barytas" He reviewed the Ilford, Canon and Hahnemule offerings and picked Ilford --I'm down to my last roll.
The Great B&W Fiber based Printing papers were all Baryta coated so it even has a familiar smell.
Because of the whiteness of Baryta, the papers also exhibit some of the widest color Gamuts and contrast ranges.
They really benefit from the 11 ink 10 Channel Pigment inks in the high end Epson Photo Printers.
Results can be stunning.
I will second Baryta papers. My favorite was Ilfo... (
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Any comments/comparisons for Red River Baryta papers to Hahnemule or other baryta papers. ? I have very impressed with RR Big Bend Baryta 310 for both B&W and color prints.
I haven't tried the red river so can't comment
The 3 I mentioned Ilford, Canson,(not Canon as auto-corrected above) & Hahnemule are/were ultra premium very heavy weight paper (north of 300 g/m2)
The reason that was important to me was that those papers felt exactly like the best heavy weight FB enlarging paper and in Ilford's case their silk surface (bad name) was just like F surface (glossy) enlarging paper when air dried on screens (i.e. not ferrotyped)
If Red river specs sound like those, maybe worth a try
PS I just checked B&H and they list several Ilford Baryta papers including Gold Fiber Gloss but no Gold Fiber silk.??
Anyway there seem to be more Baryta papers available now than ever before (except for my favorite)
I will at home then. I’ve been wanting to. I don’t see why it would be that much more risky than canvas.
GrahamWishart wrote:
You might consider not using glass. On a recent workshop I was persuaded to try this and the transformation of my images was striking. In a non hostile environmet pritns made with pigment inks last very well only needing occasional gentle dusting. I urge you to try this!
I think I will try it. I don’t see how it could be much more risky than canvas.
tcthome wrote:
Tightest curl? Is that from it soaking up a lot of ink used for this paper? Or what causes the curl?
I’m not sure, but it is the thickest paper I’ve ever used. And I sort of feel like the barium layer acts like clay, keeping its rolled shape. I just wasted five prints trying to uncurl them. I thought I was being smart. I made a De-curler using one and a half inch PVC pipe with about 4 feet of canvas. I put end caps on each end of the PVC pipe to sort of lift it off of the table to give the leading edge of the print some play when the edge meets the print each time it wraps around. Well, that wasn’t enough play and I wasn’t paying attention and wound up with 5 of them having a “dent” the width of the paper. One large dent from the first wrap and a slight dent where it came around again. (I’m just realizing how hard this is to explain). I tried everything to get that dent out. The paper is so nice I wasn’t going to let a dent ruin it. So I folded them up nicely and crammed them in my trash can. Angry at myself. Made me sick. So, now I am unwrapping a fat roll of 36” Kraft paper, sticking them in there and rolling the Kraft paper back up with the print inside. It’s so wide that I don’t have to worry about the leading edge meeting the print. Comes out, still curled, but not as bad. Gonna leave it overnight and see what happens.
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