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Apr 5, 2024 12:16:24   #
Craigdca Loc: California
 
This caught my eye and I photographed it. Is it a strange picture or does it grab you? I ask because I feel like I have an offbeat way of seeing things.


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Apr 5, 2024 12:20:42   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
I like offbeat! I follow a group on flickr called Abstract Reality. Check it out:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/abstract_reality/

Re your photo, the blurred lower right corner distracts me, and I think the top doesn't add anything. I like a crop from the crosspiece down to where the water starts to blur, and removing all the shingles. I could also find more interest if you rotated 90 degress to the left

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Apr 5, 2024 12:36:04   #
Craigdca Loc: California
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I like offbeat! I follow a group on flickr called Abstract Reality. Check it out:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/abstract_reality/

Re your photo, the blurred lower right corner distracts me, and I think the top doesn't add anything. I like a crop from the crosspiece down to where the water starts to blur, and removing all the shingles. I could also find more interest if you rotated 90 degress to the left


Thanks, Linda You may download and edit - I'd like to see what you're thinking. I had cropped it down to this to make it obvious that it's a rain gutter and to put the main ripple on the lower thirds line.

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Apr 5, 2024 13:24:17   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
The eye tends to go where the sharpness is. In your shot there's more soft ripple than sharp ripple and the most eye-catching part is the metalwork above the gutter. All of that makes it difficult to discern what the intended subject is.

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Apr 5, 2024 13:42:40   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Craigdca wrote:
Thanks, Linda You may download and edit - I'd like to see what you're thinking. I had cropped it down to this to make it obvious that it's a rain gutter and to put the main ripple on the lower thirds line.
I couldn't crop the way I wanted without distorting the pic to remove the out-of-focus shingles. Maybe some day I'll learn to try out my suggestions before sharing my thoughts

I didn't like the rotation, but I am still having problems with the blur. I like your idea of making the subject obvious, though for me - having not spent a lot of time on rooftops, lol - if there were more shingles and all in focus, I would be better able to ID.

I cropped a little and brightened. The brightness now looks more abstract in the ripple, though that isn't necessarily the best idea either.

Thanks for the conversation, Craig!



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Apr 5, 2024 14:55:38   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Craigdca wrote:
This caught my eye and I photographed it. Is it a strange picture or does it grab you? I ask because I feel like I have an offbeat way of seeing things.
I think I see what you are going for here I do like the abstract reflections and patterns on the lower part of the frame, but for me mid frame it is a little bit dark and the cross brace is a distraction, so overall it does not really grab me. But I like offbeat, and I resemble that remark, so I like what you were trying to do. ;)

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Apr 5, 2024 16:31:32   #
Craigdca Loc: California
 
R.G. wrote:
The eye tends to go where the sharpness is. In your shot there's more soft ripple than sharp ripple and the most eye-catching part is the metalwork above the gutter. All of that makes it difficult to discern what the intended subject is.


I see what you mean and I think you’re right. Thanks for the feedback.

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Apr 5, 2024 16:34:02   #
Craigdca Loc: California
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I couldn't crop the way I wanted without distorting the pic to remove the out-of-focus shingles. Maybe some day I'll learn to try out my suggestions before sharing my thoughts

I didn't like the rotation, but I am still having problems with the blur. I like your idea of making the subject obvious, though for me - having not spent a lot of time on rooftops, lol - if there were more shingles and all in focus, I would be better able to ID.

I cropped a little and brightened. The brightness now looks more abstract in the ripple, though that isn't necessarily the best idea either.

Thanks for the conversation, Craig!
I couldn't crop the way I wanted without distortin... (show quote)


Thanks for the sample. I can see we’re in rescue mode now. It would need to tone down the cross bar but I like the brightened ripples.

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Apr 5, 2024 16:35:21   #
Craigdca Loc: California
 
JD750 wrote:
I think I see what you are going for here I do like the abstract reflections and patterns on the lower part of the frame, but for me mid frame it is a little bit dark and the cross brace is a distraction, so overall it does not really grab me. But I like offbeat, and I resemble that remark, so I like what you were trying to do. ;)


Yep, thanks and I appreciate the feedback

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Apr 5, 2024 16:37:59   #
Craigdca Loc: California
 
So it’s a wrap! Great feedback that helped me see it objectively instead of my intended concept. Next time I see something I have more to think about when composing the snap.

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Apr 5, 2024 16:41:40   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Craigdca wrote:
So it’s a wrap! Great feedback that helped me see it objectively instead of my intended concept. Next time I see something I have more to think about when composing the snap.
I appreciate being reminded that it's a good idea to choose between recognizable and "quirky" or an abstract from reality.

The flickr group I mentioned has a lot of both pov's. It will be fun to try your way next time I need a theme!

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Apr 5, 2024 18:58:28   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Craigdca wrote:
Yep, thanks and I appreciate the feedback

Getting the real image to correlate with our mental image is the hard part. Please keep shooting. And most of all, have fun.

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Apr 6, 2024 01:39:16   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
.. it's a good idea to choose between recognizable and "quirky" or an abstract from reality ...


I get the impression that most of the art world suffers from that lack of differentiation in varying degrees. We get similar problems from the way that obscurity is often misused.

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Apr 6, 2024 06:20:35   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
I like it, I think you've got enough contrast in there, but I wonder if a greater depth of field would make a better image. I'd also like to see this head on.

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Apr 6, 2024 11:09:45   #
Craigdca Loc: California
 
John N wrote:
I like it, I think you've got enough contrast in there, but I wonder if a greater depth of field would make a better image. I'd also like to see this head on.


Thanks, John. Do you from directly overhead?

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