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Mar 31, 2024 13:24:33   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Biden was not cleared of having classified documents in his possession. That is a lie. He also shared classified documents to his ghost writer. Biden was deemed incompetent to stand trial and that’s why he didn’t get charged. But also, he wasn’t charged because he was a sitting president.


Donate $200 to Old Joe Biden's reelection and I'll arrange a good Stormy Daniels spanking for a very bad Ratty.

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Mar 31, 2024 13:29:12   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Triple G wrote:
He was cleared of criminal activity.

Read the report.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/no-charges-biden-classified-records-special-counsel-robert-hur

No charges were brought because Hur believed they did not have enough evidence to win in court which required a determination "beyond a reasonable doubt" verdict.

Guidance on not charging a sitting president was secondary.


Hur believed that Biden was not competent enough to stand trial because of his poor memory.

In my opinion, I don’t think Biden really knew he had the materials. He was just very careless.
Yes and also….

“Hur said any trial would take years to bring to court and, in that hypothetical situation, Biden "would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory."

“He added: "It would be difficult to convince a jury they should convict him—by then a former president who will be at least well into his eighties—of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness."

“The report said that Biden could not remember when he was vice president, when that term ended, when it began and "even within several years when his son Beau died."

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Mar 31, 2024 13:32:50   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Racmanaz wrote:
“It doesn't matter at which point either personally packed up the boxes, or supervised the packing, he's responsible for their contents”??

Isn’t that exactly what Biden claimed that happened? He blamed his team not himself. To claim that the classified information wasn’t more secured than How Biden had his classified materials stored it’s just pure nonsense. How can Biden’s classified materials be secured when it was in the garage and he claims that he didn’t even know That he had them? He had them in multiple spots as well. As to the Chinese, how did two Chinese spies infiltrate the Navy? Was the Navy not secure? Your theory has just been debunked as usual
“It doesn't matter at which point either personall... (show quote)

In the case of BOTH President Biden and Vice-President Pence, once found, the documents were IMMEDIATELY turned over to the National Archives.

But trump OBSTRUCTED the retrieval of the documents he'd STOLEN from the White House.

The documents trump STOLE were scattered around Mar-A-Lago, on a stage, in a bathroom, where the general public had easy access. As I stated earlier, TWO CHINESE SPIES were arrested at Mar-A-Lago. How many spy arrests were made at Joe Biden’s house in Delaware, or at the Penn Biden Center?

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/15/trump-documents-case-biden-clinton-pence.html#:~:text=Mike%20Pence%2C%20who%20was%20Trump's,over%20to%20the%20National%20Archives.

"Trump’s alleged intent, namely to keep the documents, and his lack of transparency about what he had is what elevates his case from an unfortunate filing accident to a crime"

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Mar 31, 2024 13:36:10   #
Triple G
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Hur believed that Biden was not competent enough to stand trial because of his poor memory.

In my opinion, I don’t think Biden really knew he had the materials. He was just very careless.
Yes and also….

“Hur said any trial would take years to bring to court and, in that hypothetical situation, Biden "would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory."

“He added: "It would be difficult to convince a jury they should convict him—by then a former president who will be at least well into his eighties—of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness."

“The report said that Biden could not remember when he was vice president, when that term ended, when it began and "even within several years when his son Beau died."
Hur believed that Biden was not competent enough t... (show quote)


Reasons Hur didn't charge because the evidence he had of any criminality wouldn't offset the other aspects:

1) not enough evidence of criminal intent
2) no evidence of him using the info to harm country or national security
3) sympathetic defendant
4) not credible testimony

To get a "beyond reasonable doubt" verdict just like I said.

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Mar 31, 2024 13:37:53   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
In the case of BOTH President Biden and Vice-President Pence, once found, the documents were IMMEDIATELY turned over to the National Archives.

But trump OBSTRUCTED the retrieval of the documents he'd STOLEN from the White House.

The documents trump STOLE were scattered around Mar-A-Lago, on a stage, in a bathroom, where the general public had easy access. As I stated earlier, TWO CHINESE SPIES were arrested at Mar-A-Lago. How many spy arrests were made at Joe Biden’s house in Delaware, or at the Penn Biden Center?

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/15/trump-documents-case-biden-clinton-pence.html#:~:text=Mike%20Pence%2C%20who%20was%20Trump's,over%20to%20the%20National%20Archives.

"Trump’s alleged intent, namely to keep the documents, and his lack of transparency about what he had is what elevates his case from an unfortunate filing accident to a crime"
In the case of BOTH President Biden and Vice-Presi... (show quote)


Trump intentionally possessing classified material is the other part of the story with Trump. I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about possessing classify material, especially when it’s not secured as was the case with Biden. Trump retaining them and the alleged obstruction is just another charge that should be added. Thats not my arguments, But then again that’s something you always do is deflect and twist. You use the same BS tactic when I talk about the Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy, you go right to the Russia interference. In my opinion, Trump, Biden, Hillary and Pence should all be at least charge with possessing classified material.

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Mar 31, 2024 13:42:32   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Trump intentionally possessing classified material is the other part of the story with Trump. I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about possessing classify material, especially when it’s not secured as was the case with Biden. Trump retaining them and the alleged obstruction is just another charge that should be added. Thats not my arguments, But then again that’s something you always do is deflect and twist. You use the same BS tactic when I talk about the Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy, you go right to the Russia interference. In my opinion, Trump, Biden, Hillary and Pence should all be at least charge with possessing classified material.
Trump intentionally possessing classified material... (show quote)


In your opinion the J6 convicts should be the new faces on US currency.

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Mar 31, 2024 13:45:26   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Triple G wrote:
Reasons Hur didn't charge because the evidence he had of any criminality wouldn't offset the other aspects:

1) not enough evidence of criminal intent
2) no evidence of him using the info to harm country or national security
3) sympathetic defendant
4) not credible testimony

To get a "beyond reasonable doubt" verdict just like I said.


Yes I agree with that, but Biden would also not be found competent to stand trial for the more serious crime. Again, all of them should have been charged for possession of classified materials. The fact that they weren’t makes it very dangerous. Then anybody could just take classified material and just claim they didn’t know they had it. What does that look like to our enemies?

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Mar 31, 2024 13:49:27   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Trump intentionally possessing classified material is the other part of the story with Trump. I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about possessing classify material, especially when it’s not secured as was the case with Biden. Trump retaining them and the alleged obstruction is just another charge that should be added. Thats not my arguments, But then again that’s something you always do is deflect and twist. You use the same BS tactic when I talk about the Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy, you go right to the Russia interference. In my opinion, Trump, Biden, Hillary and Pence should all be at least charge with possessing classified material.
Trump intentionally possessing classified material... (show quote)

trump is already charged with obstruction in the Mar-A-Lago documents case!

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-documents-maralago-politics-florida-charges-bee867f48da593d351c5a91e87c356a9#:~:text=The%20indictment%20includes%20new%20counts,conceal%20the%20footage%20from%20investigators.

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Mar 31, 2024 13:51:08   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
trump is already charged with obstruction in the Mar-A-Lago documents case!

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-documents-maralago-politics-florida-charges-bee867f48da593d351c5a91e87c356a9#:~:text=The%20indictment%20includes%20new%20counts,conceal%20the%20footage%20from%20investigators.


lol There you go again deflecting. Trump be in charge with obstruction was not my argument and I don’t disagree with that charge. Why don’t you stick with what I’m talking about? You keep deflecting and twisting.

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Mar 31, 2024 13:54:29   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Biden was not cleared of having classified documents in his possession. That is a lie. He also shared classified documents to his ghost writer. Biden was deemed incompetent to stand trial and that’s why he didn’t get charged. But also, he wasn’t charged because he was a sitting president.

While on the subject of not being cleared, we need to bring up the fact that trump WASN'T cleared in the Mueller Investigation!

https://apnews.com/article/f109a539220b41218860fa68176a9c98

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Mar 31, 2024 14:00:00   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
While on the subject of not being cleared, we need to bring up the fact that trump WASN'T cleared in the Mueller Investigation!

https://apnews.com/article/f109a539220b41218860fa68176a9c98


lol the subject is not “being cleared”, The subject is possessing and retaining classified materials. This is just another one of your attempts at the deflection. But you are wrong anyways, Trump was exonerated the pulse claim that he colluded with Russia. He was just not exonerated from the possible obstruction.

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Mar 31, 2024 14:26:30   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
trump is already charged with obstruction in the Mar-A-Lago documents case!

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-documents-maralago-politics-florida-charges-bee867f48da593d351c5a91e87c356a9#:~:text=The%20indictment%20includes%20new%20counts,conceal%20the%20footage%20from%20investigators.


Hmm? Trump was president when he obtained the documents, he therefore had a legal right to them, he also had the power to declare them declassified if he desired. He had them in govt file boxes, in locked rooms at Mar-a-Lago. He invited the first inspection and when told he really needed more or better locks, he installed them. And don't forget-he and Mar-a-Lago were guarded by Secret Service as a president and then former president and the home of said president/former president.

So, legal rights, locked rooms at one location, guards at said location.

Biden got most of the documents at his location(s), while a Senator - Senators don't have the same rights and powers as Presidents in regard to documents. And his stash(s) of documents were in private offices, public institute offices, his home(s) and his garage where Hunter and other people worked on his classic corvette.

So, no legal rights, some locked rooms, some some-times locked (and not really secure rooms) and one garage, often open, often with other people in it.

It was later the Biden DOJ came along and charged Trump.

But, which person had legal status and made an effort at security and which one got documents without legal status and stored or just left them in multiple not very secure or unsecure locations?

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Mar 31, 2024 14:46:14   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
dennis2146 wrote:
That can only mean you are a liar. It was supposedly your prediction, your post. Me find it. I don’t really give two shits and a damn. I am just calling you out on your claim, your LIE. So far it looks like I am right and you are lying just like the Left Wing supporter you are.

You want me to stop my insecurities, NONE at present because you are the one lying not me.
You just proved my success ate judging the Left.

Dennis


I am not lying. I cannot find the post. I was also the first to post regarding the pandemic in February 2020. I was shot down by the Trump supporters here because Trump downplayed the significance of the virus in the early days. Everyone knows he did this because he could see the virus being bad for him. He never considered the ramifications for the rest of the country. I was posting daily death numbers early on.
You are such a sad excuse for a human. I'm curious...were dropped as a child? Did your daddy drink? Did your mommy drink? Something caused you to become this warped.

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Mar 31, 2024 14:49:49   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
RixPix wrote:
I am not lying. I cannot find the post. I was also the first to post regarding the pandemic in February 2020. I was shot down by the Trump supporters here because Trump downplayed the significance of the virus in the early days. Everyone knows he did this because he could see the virus being bad for him. He never considered the ramifications for the rest of the country. I was posting daily death numbers early on.
You are such a sad excuse for a human. I'm curious...were dropped as a child? Did your daddy drink? Did your mommy drink? Something caused you to become this warped.
I am not lying. I cannot find the post. I was al... (show quote)


LOL You are such a narcissistic pathological liar. "I was also the first to post regarding the pandemic in February 2020."

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Mar 31, 2024 14:55:50   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
LOL You are such a narcissistic pathological liar. "I was also the first to post regarding the pandemic in February 2020."


Pedo-Rac, don't you ever get tired of saying the same words over and over again?

You are one sick puppy.


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