We NEED to let Immigrants work to lessen the load on Big Cities! (Page 2): I would agree that the majority of the “current crop” want to eat, have a life, and even contribute but...

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

DennyT wrote:

People who want to work
People who want to eat
People who want to have a life
People who want contribute

The “ current crop “ probably is the same.

I would agree that the majority of the “current crop” want to eat, have a life, and even contribute but absent a lawful work visa they are illegal and are obviously using the current interpretation of the asylum laws to circumvent that requirement. Additionally, we are admitting those who want to attack cops, rob, rape, and even murder. Hopefully our FBI director is wrong regarding his concerns of another terrorist attack. Not saying this based on some Trumpian scare tactic, just what I read and hear in the news.

charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.

ArtzDarkroom wrote:

Citizens complain, rightfully so, about the negative impact of immigrants because of the financial burden. The financial burden would be outweighed if these people were allowed to work. That's one reason there are here... to work.
At less than 4% unemployment, and thriving economy... we need workers.

And the Democratic party needs voters for life.
That's why they are here.

jcboy3

Effate wrote:

I would agree that the majority of the “current cr... (show quote)

Illegal immigrants appear to actually be more law-abiding that legal Americans (with the exception of being illegal immigrants to begin with).

https://www.cato.org/blog/new-research-illegal-immigration-crime-0

"There is more and more evidence that immigrants, regardless of legal status, are less likely to commit crimes than native‐born Americans. However, a substantial number of Americans still think that immigration increases crime. As more evidence builds over time, we can only hope that Americans respond by updating their opinions so that they fit the facts."

The problem is extrapolating from anecdotal evidence filtered by right wing news media.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

jcboy3 wrote:

Illegal immigrants appear to actually be more law-... (show quote)

Yeah, heard that argument many times and who cares? We have enough criminals in this country. Ask the police officers, 14 year old rape victim, many robbery victim and University of Georgia murder victims all recent victimized by Venezuelan gangsters (all very recently) if they are impressed with your citations.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Effate wrote:

I would agree that the majority of the “current cr... (show quote)

What you hear in the news

“””” Additionally, we are admitting those who want to attack cops, rob, rape, and even murder. Hopefully our FBI director is wrong regarding his concerns of another terrorist attack. Not saying this based on some Trumpian scare tactic, just what I read and hear in the news.
“””

Is nothing but stereotyping news that you apply to the whole of “ latest crop”.

And once again you appearing to be usurping the authority court who is the deciding authority if illegal or legal.
Until that decision is rendered they are legal awaiting court.
It is not an “interpretation “it is the law as written !!

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

DennyT wrote:

What you hear in the news br br “””” Additionall... (show quote)

Do you read responses? How is agreeing that most are here to work and pointing out actual recent crimes stereotyping? Additionally, the President can turn off the spigot immediately under extraordinary circumstances (which 80% of the public feels is the case). “It’s the law as written.”

jcboy3

Effate wrote:

Yeah, heard that argument many times and who cares? We have enough criminals in this country. Ask the police officers, 14 year old rape victim, many robbery victim and University of Georgia murder victims all recent victimized by Venezuelan gangsters (all very recently) if they are impressed with your citations.

You made the statement, and I showed you were wrong.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

jcboy3 wrote:

You made the statement, and I showed you were wrong.

Please, point out the statement I made that you proved wrong.

btbg

ArtzDarkroom wrote:

Citizens complain, rightfully so, about the negative impact of immigrants because of the financial burden. The financial burden would be outweighed if these people were allowed to work. That's one reason there are here... to work.
At less than 4% unemployment, and thriving economy... we need workers.

If you let people who enter the country illegally work you just encourage more people to enter the country illegally.

Should not be allowed to work unless enter the country legally.

btbg

jcboy3 wrote:

Illegal immigrants appear to actually be more law-... (show quote)

Let me get this straight, you want to ban many guns because it might save one life, but when there are documented crimes committed by illegals you take the opposite side and try to claim that most illegals are law abiding. First, they aren't law abiding because they entered the country illegally, so they already violated at least one law. Second, even if 99.99 percent of illegals are law abiding, by the logic you have used on other threads about guns, stopping the influx of illegals would be a good thing, if for no other reason that that it will save some lives.

Third, the data for illegals is for the historical pattern, but the current influx is mostly unaccompanied males, and if you bothered to look at the news crime is way down in Venezuela because their president has encouraged their gang members it immigrate to the U.S.

His policy seems to be working because there have been several recent high profile crimes committed by Venezuelans in the U.S., while their crime rate has hit a more than 20 year low.

hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

ArtzDarkroom wrote:

Citizens complain, rightfully so, about the negative impact of immigrants because of the financial burden. The financial burden would be outweighed if these people were allowed to work. That's one reason there are here... to work.
At less than 4% unemployment, and thriving economy... we need workers.

They need to return to their home countries instead of leaching off American citizens. Granting "asylum" requires evidence of "persecution". And honestly, that should be the only reason they would be permitted to just enter and stay.

That is unless of course they had an American sponsor providing them with jobs. That is something that would need to be worked out long before arriving here.

Maybe you want to sponsor somebody Art?

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

hondo812 wrote:

They need to return to their home countries instead of leaching off American citizens. Granting "asylum" requires evidence of "persecution". And honestly, that should be the only reason they would be permitted to just enter and stay.

That is unless of course they had an American sponsor providing them with jobs. That is something that would need to be worked out long before arriving here.

Maybe you want to sponsor somebody Art?

Why is it that these Lefty hypocrites always ask those that are opposed to abortion if they will support the children that are not aborted yet they won’t donate their own money to support the asylum seekers that are falsely claiming their status?

hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

Racmanaz wrote:

Why is it that these Lefty hypocrites always ask those that are opposed to abortion if they will support the children that are not aborted yet they won’t donate their own money to support the asylum seekers that are falsely claiming their status?

I worked at a local Medical Device company for 17 years. When I first started we had a number of people that were foreign nationals working there. Some from Central and South America and some from the Far East.

One woman comes to mind immediately. She had her green card and was legal. Her husband didn't and he got detained. He managed to knock her up during a conjugal visit and because she didn't have much of a support system, he ended up getting deported after she missed 4 or more of his deportation hearings in a row. She was gone soon after and never returned.

Another woman from Columbia started an affair with one of the engineering staff and basically ownership caught them in certain acts on premises. He was salary but she was hourly and you can bet the owners didn't appreciate paying her to "get some".

The Asians that come in, they work, do a good job and don't fork around.

jcboy3

btbg wrote:

Let me get this straight, you want to ban many gun... (show quote)

No, I want gun control because it will save many lives. Including lives taken by illegal immigrants.

I did point out that they were violating immigration laws.

And the point wasn’t to curb illegal immigration. Just that claiming that they are criminals is incorrect.

btbg

jcboy3 wrote:

No, I want gun control because it will save many lives. Including lives taken by illegal immigrants.

I did point out that they were violating immigration laws.

And the point wasn’t to curb illegal immigration. Just that claiming that they are criminals is incorrect.

Isn't entering the country ilegally a crime? Thus they are criminals.