You cannot freeze a Human Being: If you freeze a human being, it will die. However, you can freeze an embryo and it can still be implanted in a female and survive. The reason for this...

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

If you freeze a human being, it will die.
However, you can freeze an embryo and it can still be implanted in a female and survive.
The reason for this is simple.
Embryos are not human beings.
Now, do you understand?

Triple G

Frank T wrote:

If you freeze a human being, it will die.
However, you can freeze an embryo and it can still be implanted in a female and survive.
The reason for this is simple.
Embryos are not human beings.
Now, do you understand?

Another opportunity for SCOTUS ruling.

One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID

Frank T wrote:

If you freeze a human being, it will die.
However, you can freeze an embryo and it can still be implanted in a female and survive.
The reason for this is simple.
Embryos are not human beings.
Now, do you understand?

Next thing you know they will be calculating how many children a female might have and and make her liable for the safety of all those possible humans. If something happens to her ( accident murder etc ) that person will be held for mass murder , serial killer or genocide, whatever they can dream up.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

One Rude Dawg wrote:

Next thing you know they will be calculating how many children a female might have and and make her liable for the safety of all those possible humans. If something happens to her ( accident murder etc ) that person will be held for mass murder , serial killer or genocide, whatever they can dream up.

….or charge a man for “jerking off” and killing half humans.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Frank T wrote:

If you freeze a human being, it will die.
However, you can freeze an embryo and it can still be implanted in a female and survive.
The reason for this is simple.
Embryos are not human beings.
Now, do you understand?

I guess what you’re really saying is that embryos are more viable than human beings. Therefore they’re more valuable. Also, can a fetus be frozen and survive? No? I guess that fetus is also a human.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Racmanaz wrote:

I guess what you’re really saying is that embryos are more viable than human beings. Therefore they’re more valuable. Also, can a fetus be frozen and survive? No? I guess that fetus is also a human.

Depends on how developed it is. If it can't survive outside the womb then no, it's not human.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Frank T wrote:

Depends on how developed it is. If it can't survive outside the womb then no, it's not human.

What authority do you have to determine that baby or unborn is not human? If he or she is not human, than what is he or she? a dog a cat a cow an antelope? If you take an unborn baby or fetus out of its environment of course the fetus or baby will not survive. It’s the same if somebody took you out of your own environment and stuck you under the ocean with no life support, you would die too. Does that mean you’re not human? Well, we all know that you’re not human but that’s beside the point. Your weak argument demonstrates how you are arguing in the position of ignorance. This is my advice, you should really keep your mouth shut till you know what you’re talking about.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

The issue should not be about the species of an embryo; of course a “human” embryo is, or more correctly CAN BECOME, a living baby/adult human.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

Duplicate post removed. Slow WiFi on the road.

tramsey Loc: Texas

Several years ago It was brought up before the Supreme Court if a fetus was a human if if was unable to live outside the womb. They passed on it and sent it back to the lower court. I wonder if it will get that far

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

tramsey wrote:

Several years ago It was brought up before the Supreme Court if a fetus was a human if if was unable to live outside the womb. They passed on it and sent it back to the lower court. I wonder if it will get that far

But my point is that survival of ANY embryo outside the womb has nothing to do with defining or identifying the species (human, cow, goat, cat, dog, ...).

An embryo is formed by the union of sperm and ova from "parents" of a species, and the embryo WILL BE that same species.

The real nut to crack is defining when killing a human embryo, or allowing it to die, constitutes a crime. Abortion laws generally consider whether the embryo or fetus can survive on its own, and medical science is moving that time point earlier and earlier toward conception, which would be the ultimate earliest time point.

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

One Rude Dawg wrote:

Next thing you know they will be calculating how many children a female might have and and make her liable for the safety of all those possible humans. If something happens to her ( accident murder etc ) that person will be held for mass murder , serial killer or genocide, whatever they can dream up.

Our lawgivers are losing their minds, another sign

the world is going to hell in a handbasket.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Racmanaz wrote:

I guess what you’re really saying is that embryos are more viable than human beings. Therefore they’re more valuable. Also, can a fetus be frozen and survive? No? I guess that fetus is also a human.

Rac,
You truly don't have a clue.
Be well and say hi to your caretaker for me.
She must be a saint.

srg

Frank T wrote:

If you freeze a human being, it will die.
However, you can freeze an embryo and it can still be implanted in a female and survive.
The reason for this is simple.
Embryos are not human beings.
Now, do you understand?

Great point.
The answer is, no they don't understand.

srg

Racmanaz wrote:

What authority do you have to determine that baby ... (show quote)

Wow. If only you could take your own advice.