DaveyDitzer wrote:
You sometimes remind me of one of my chemistry professors from whom I learned a lot but who occasionally, just occasionally, found it difficult to be unfailingly kind:)
Like your professors of old, we all probably expect you to listen, to hear, and to understand the wisdom we dispense consistently and repeatedly. When you change your cameras, you'll likely need to change your software, your computer, your storage, your lenses. Don't make a digital camera change without full understanding of all the follow-on -- and possibly unintended -- consequences.
When you say you have to change your PS to edit new RAW, I grow concerned you're not subscribing already, where you edit in native 16-bit through the entire workflow. Maybe there some other questions / topics you need to walk over to the mirror and ask yourself this morning?
We all want you to achieve your maximum potential. And, we expect nothing less.
I did not mean to suggest that DNG's are a Bad thing, and did mention that it is the native format of some cameras, But there does not seem to be any reason to use it as an intermediate step, because all editors have to read native files.
JimGray
Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico
CHG_CANON wrote:
If we think about how Topaz uses DNG to edit RAW first and pass those edits back into LR or PS, this is another 'serious' and 'useful' implementation. So, it's not that DNG doesn't have uses. Rather, default conversion and replacement of proprietary RAW with DNG is where Adobe pushed 'industry standard' too far for the industry to agree / adopt.
This is another very good point. I create dng files with Topaz applications regularly.
The biggest flaw is also why it can be used...
DNG can encapsulate EVERY standard digital format, including JPG, PNG and the like. By doing so, it creates a 'non-editable file.
This is what make folks think the content it 'raw' when it is not. Been saying that since its inception. As to being a norm? Ah!
Google WEP formats are making a dent, mainly because Google is so influential on the WEB, smaller files, includes animation but software to edit and save as? I have not found any but limited options on the WEB.
Never messed with DNG, but recently a few RAW files ended up as DNG, maybe after some processing. I was shocked that they were around 5kb! Totally worthless!
Robertl594
Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
So if I am interpreting all of the above accurately, In camera Leica created DNG files are full RAW images, that should not be converted into Adobe DNG files when imported into LR? That all of the raw data remains with Leica created DNG files, however, any native Leica DNG files that are converted, lose some of the finer attributes of raw files?
I only shoot NEF, (just added Leica Q3 to my array) and I never convert my NEFs, only save as JPEGs for web use. Trying to figure out this DNG thing.
Thank you
RL
DirtFarmer
Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
Robertl594 wrote:
So if I am interpreting all of the above accurately, In camera Leica created DNG files are full RAW images, that should not be converted into Adobe DNG files when imported into LR? That all of the raw data remains with Leica created DNG files, however, any native Leica DNG files that are converted, lose some of the finer attributes of raw files?
I only shoot NEF, (just added Leica Q3 to my array) and I never convert my NEFs, only save as JPEGs for web use. Trying to figure out this DNG thing.
Thank you
RL
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I would think converting a Leica dng to an Adobe dng would be the same sort of useless action as converting my nef file to dng. The dng from Leica is the original file and our editing software should be able to use all original raw formats, including Leica dng (as long as our software is up to date).
Robertl594
Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
DirtFarmer wrote:
I would think converting a Leica dng to an Adobe dng would be the same sort of useless action as converting my nef file to dng. The dng from Leica is the original file and our editing software should be able to use all original raw formats, including Leica dng (as long as our software is up to date).
I agree. I would never convert a NEF into a DNG. I seem to recall my last import of the Leica DNG’s into LR, went through a conversion. I will look out for this next time I import.
Robertl594 wrote:
I agree. I would never convert a NEF into a DNG. I seem to recall my last import of the Leica DNG’s into LR, went through a conversion. I will look out for this next time I import.
When I bought my Nikon Df in 2013 I was still using PS CS2 and it can't open the NEF files from the camera. I had to do NEF to DNG conversion. Now I have a newer version that can open the NEF.
DirtFarmer
Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
BebuLamar wrote:
When I bought my Nikon Df in 2013 I was still using PS CS2 and it can't open the NEF files from the camera. I had to do NEF to DNG conversion. Now I have a newer version that can open the NEF.
It is always a pleasure to use up to date software that doesn't need workarounds for its limitations.
DirtFarmer wrote:
It is always a pleasure to use up to date software that doesn't need workarounds for its limitations.
But I found I need CS2 to open the photo CD (*.pcd) files.
DirtFarmer
Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
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