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Feb 11, 2024 20:57:48   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
1. Wellington Bloomless

This is a strange looking variety of unknown origin, probably in the US at least 100 years ago. The flowers have no petals, hence the name. A good fresh eating apple.

2. Winter Banana

An excellent desert apple from Cass County, Indiana, 1876

3. Rusty Coat

An old southern variety, Rusty Coat is thought to have originated in Lincoln County, NC. around 1880.

4. Tolman Sweet

This is a sweet apple with soft flesh discovered in the 1700s in Massachusetts.


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Feb 11, 2024 21:17:04   #
BB4A
 
That third Apple (the Rusty Coat) looks very similar to several of the Russet varieties, that may have originated from ancient English heirloom apples. Russet apples were also introduced and popularly grown in New England in the early to mid 1800’s, so that may have been the original stock for this variety from the Carolina’s.

My favourite Apple is the Egremont Russet, still a very popular apple variety grown in Southern England:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egremont_Russet

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Feb 11, 2024 23:07:22   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
BB4A wrote:
That third Apple (the Rusty Coat) looks very similar to several of the Russet varieties, that may have originated from ancient English heirloom apples. Russet apples were also introduced and popularly grown in New England in the early to mid 1800’s, so that may have been the original stock for this variety from the Carolina’s.

My favourite Apple is the Egremont Russet, still a very popular apple variety grown in Southern England:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egremont_Russet


Very good. I am familiar with Egremont Russet. I have seen about 20 russet varieties, I guess.

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Feb 12, 2024 06:52:10   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
Great set and lighting.

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Feb 12, 2024 07:32:33   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
1. Wellington Bloomless

This is a strange looking variety of unknown origin, probably in the US at least 100 years ago. The flowers have no petals, hence the name. A good fresh eating apple.

2. Winter Banana

An excellent desert apple from Cass County, Indiana, 1876

3. Rusty Coat

An old southern variety, Rusty Coat is thought to have originated in Lincoln County, NC. around 1880.

4. Tolman Sweet

This is a sweet apple with soft flesh discovered in the 1700s in Massachusetts.
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Very nice Set!!

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Feb 12, 2024 08:35:24   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Nice apple shots.

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Feb 12, 2024 10:11:35   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
Well done, Mike. Do you know what variety of apple it was that Eve picked off the tree? I'm only asking so that I don't make the same mistake. 😁

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Feb 12, 2024 13:37:02   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
Well done, Mike. Do you know what variety of apple it was that Eve picked off the tree? I'm only asking so that I don't make the same mistake. 😁

Believe it or not, scholars have actually debated that issue. The Bible doesn't specify what kind of fruit, it just says they ate the forbidden fruit. Latin for fruit is "pom" so in Latin "they ate the pom," meaning they ate the fruit. I early texts the fruit was thought to be figs or grapes or pomegranate. All of those were more likely to be found in the Holy Land than apples. It has only been recently that apple varieties were developed by Israeli horticulturists that could thrive in that climate.

By the 12th Century the word "pom" had come to mean apple in French, rather than just any fruit, so French translations of Genesis started saying "they ate the apple," rather than "they ate the fruit." The modern French word is pommes, meaning apple. Another interesting use of that word is "pommes de terre," which is what the French call potatoes - apple of the earth.

Pomona is the Roman goddess of fruitful abundance, and the word Pomona is related to the Latin pomus (fruit tree) and the Latin word pomum meaning "fruit", and specifically orchard fruit. The English word "pome" means fruit with several seed chambers, apples and pears in particular, as opposed to drupe, or stone fruit (cherries, apricots, peaches, plums, nectarines) and baccate fruit (berries).

Meanwhile, there is an apple variety named "Pomegranate" and a Pomegranate variety named "Eve."

Armed with that knowledge you should be able to avoid making any mistakes on this issue.

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Feb 12, 2024 14:01:49   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Very good set, Mike.

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Feb 12, 2024 14:41:53   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Thanks to tradio, Frank, John Matthew, and Earnest Botello for the kind words.

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