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Feb 6, 2024 17:14:02   #
Badgertale Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
 
JZA B1 wrote:
Which style is easier? Can it be made to look authentic if your subjects are posing? Is it more about the skill of the photographer or the "model"? (With most people not being professional models.)

Can a good photographer with non-models produce natural-looking but posted photographs?

Or should you try to shoot candid pictures if you want natural look and forget trying to pose people?


I suggest seeking inspiration from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siFmCDmSU0M

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Feb 6, 2024 17:27:18   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
User ID wrote:
Candids are obviously easier, but tend to suckbad unless done by someone who is good at posed pix. Relaxed natural posing of ordinary civilians is a social skill and not at all a photographic skill.


Mostly true, but for real portrait work it’s a combination of relaxing them while instructing. I’m usually not a fan of having my photo taken, but my one photographer always gets shots I like. Yes, I’m relaxed and comfortable with her, but her frequent “chin out and down” reminder plays a part.

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Feb 6, 2024 17:38:05   #
Ioannis
 
JZA B1 wrote:
Which style is easier? Can it be made to look authentic if your subjects are posing? Is it more about the skill of the photographer or the "model"? (With most people not being professional models.)

Can a good photographer with non-models produce natural-looking but posted photographs?

Or should you try to shoot candid pictures if you want natural look and forget trying to pose people?



Several years ago I used to work as a photographer for a time share company, my job was to photograph new buyers and give them printed photos for them to take home and show them to friends and family. We used one of the very first digital camera and printer ( I have posted an article about this equipment) several years ago. In order to have the best candid results I had to use facial expressions and language to have people relax at front of me and the camera. To your question I have to say both ways can be successful with patience.

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Feb 6, 2024 18:09:50   #
JZA B1
 
azted wrote:
Are you shooting for yourself, or have you been hired for a specific purpose?


For myself. Not a pro. Don't do this for a living.

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Feb 6, 2024 18:11:18   #
JZA B1
 
Miker999 wrote:
Posing is very difficult for many of us. After 40 years with a camera and a lot of practice and study, my poses still looked forced, hence, I don't do formal portraits


Do you think it's more about photographer being able to direct the subjects or the subject's modeling skills? (Assuming models are just regular people with no modeling experience.)

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Feb 6, 2024 18:28:37   #
User ID
 
Miker999 wrote:
Posing is very difficult for many of us. After 40 years with a camera and a lot of practice and study, my poses still looked forced, hence, I don't do formal portraits

Acoarst they look forced if youve been posing them. Possibly somewhat too much "practice and study" ? I dont "pose" people. I just work with them so they pose themselves. You cant arrange a person as if youre arranging a still life ... unless you want a deadly still look.

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Feb 6, 2024 18:56:38   #
azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
 
JZA B1 wrote:
For myself. Not a pro. Don't do this for a living.


Then read a few magazines, books, etc. and then get out there and shoot! You are the ultimate arbiter of the quality of your artwork!!

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Feb 6, 2024 20:05:46   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Both candid and posed images of PEOPLE can be well crafted, effective in content, and "natural" in appearance IF you know how to do these things.

If you are an event, wedding, or press photograher(photojournalist) you have to observe people. anticipate action, watch for various expressions, and shoot quickly in spontaneous situations.

If you are a portrait or fashion photograher or a shootg under controlled conditions you must be able to pose your subject or at least direct them effectively. If you are not dealing with experienced professional models or actors, you have to be able to direct folks to pose whereby they look natural and that can be quite a science and art form especially if you are trying to create a faltering interpretation of your subject. This has to do with emphasizing or de-emphasizing any aspect of a subject's face or body. It also has to do with avoiding distortion and creating leading lines. I can write dozens of pages about all the techniques. Just as an example, in a simple head and shoulders portrait or so-called headshot the position of the subject as to how they are seated or standing canbe critical. It might be difficult to believe but a good, natural, headshot portats stars with the position of the feet and legs regardless of the fact these limbs do not show in the image- it is a matter of body mechanics. Another little-known item is that a person can hold a pose longer and appear more comfortable and natural if they are in a good posture, that is, they are sitting or standing up straight with the spine at full extension. The more a person you show like in a full-length portat or including the heads and arms, etc., the more technicalities of the pose, you have to address. And... you have to pose or direct folks in such a way that they don't feel uncomfortable, awkward, or being put in a position that only a contortionist could assume. This all can be more critical in a group portrait weh you are working to get everyone positioned naturally and flattering manner with their positions relating to each other.

A good people photograher knows how to make effective and story-telling candid images and formal portat that look "candid' in pose, expression and statement.

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Feb 6, 2024 20:10:48   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
JZA B1 wrote:
Which style is easier? Can it be made to look authentic if your subjects are posing? Is it more about the skill of the photographer or the "model"? (With most people not being professional models.)

Can a good photographer with non-models produce natural-looking but posted photographs?

Or should you try to shoot candid pictures if you want natural look and forget trying to pose people?


Posing does present several problems such as optimal lighting. I do most of my photo as candid. Granted they won’t be magazine quality but I will remember the person as they were.

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Feb 6, 2024 21:35:46   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
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JZA B1 wrote:


I think there is room for both, but I really like natural. I like catching action in the moment, and with the ability to carry a pretty good camera with your phone you are able to catch thing more spontaneous than ever before.

I'm sure many of us have in the past missed shots that would be outstanding if we had had a camera at the time.

I caught this before Covid, but it became more relevant when kids had to study at home. This is my granddaughter Charlotte and remains one of my favorites - she's intent on the tablet but that snack is right there to munch on.

I was photographing a family wedding (not again if I can help it) and had a couple of shots that were posed - 2nd wedding of both with the bride and groom at the top of the steps and their respective families on either side of the steps - the couple loved it. The groom had grandchildren that I posed in a parlor like a 19th century Boston school portrait. Both worked.

But my favorite of that day was my nephew who was boogalooing with the flower girl, both around 5 years old that
really warmed my heart. He's now in is mid 20's and I promised his wife I would find it for her.

Thank you for bringing back memories. I hope you like Charlotte's photo.
br br I think there is room for both, but I real... (show quote)


I used to be able to sit like that in a chair when I had legs that bent the correct way

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Feb 6, 2024 21:53:09   #
b top gun
 
I get around the dilemma by keeping people out of my photography, with one exception, our one and only grandchild.

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Feb 6, 2024 21:57:18   #
b top gun
 
I do not aviate 4 to 6 hours one way to photograph people. I get away to get away from people. I've worked retail for the past 15+ years and have had my fill of interacting with people. Photography is my preferred way to decompress at my age; I am a baby boomer.

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Feb 6, 2024 23:03:31   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Scruples wrote:
Posing does present several problems such as optimal lighting. I do most of my photo as candid. Granted they won’t be magazine quality but I will remember the person as they were.


I’d say the opposite is true. With posed portraits you have more control of the light.

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Feb 6, 2024 23:45:55   #
User ID
 
JZA B1 wrote:
Which style is easier? Can it be made to look authentic if your subjects are posing? Is it more about the skill of the photographer or the "model"? (With most people not being professional models.)

Can a good photographer with non-models produce natural-looking but posted photographs?

Or should you try to shoot candid pictures if you want natural look and forget trying to pose people?

Candid pix too often look unnatural cuz we do not normally or naturally see time and motion oddly frozen still. Therefor, posed pix can look *more* natural than candids when the subject is comfortable in their situation.

The main contribution of photographic skills toward posed pix is in the practitioners easy, efficient, confident manner. If you fuss with stuff the subject will not feel totally at ease.

IOW portrait posing is a partnership between parties on both ends of the lens. The subject should not play a passive role.

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Feb 7, 2024 01:50:19   #
scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR
 
In the few weddings and birthdays my husband and I shot upon request, we found that posed brought better results. Candids resulted in people with mouths open while eating, messy tables, blinking eyes, loopy smiles, etc. Posed subjects can still appear to be having fun if you can get their attention and have them make a toast or something.

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