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Feb 9, 2024 15:53:11   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Triple G wrote:
In a small town, there is probably no local police presence. The offender will be brought before a justice of the peace. If offender is a local, he'll be remanded to parents and shamed and scolded in the local newspaper. If the offender is not local, he or she will go before JP and transported to nearest law enforcement with jurisdiction. No vigilante justice in the small towns I know.


No, not for unruly kids, I suspect that if it was a daily occurrence that they would eventually be held by store staff until a sheriff could arrive, but the other BS spoken about in this thread such as adults taking high value objects would be met with resistance in a small town, it would not be tolerated.

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Feb 9, 2024 16:14:08   #
bobups Loc: Bath pa
 
At one time about 50 years ago a judge would give you a option jail or enlist in the service

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Feb 9, 2024 16:53:04   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
Ruthlessrider wrote:
I couldn’t agree with you more. It seems we have sunk to the gutter in providing help to the most in need of it. The poor in this country are treated as less than third class citizens, and we should be ashamed.


Watched a news segment about the pre-paid debit cards being handed out to non citizens (illegal aliens) followed by an ad seeking money for veterans disabled in service to our country. How can we accept this as a country?

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Feb 9, 2024 17:01:41   #
Barre Loc: Fairfax Co, VA
 
clint f. wrote:
Watched a news segment about the pre-paid debit cards being handed out to non citizens (illegal aliens) followed by an ad seeking money for veterans disabled in service to our country. How can we accept this as a country?


New York City is launching a pilot program to provide 500 migrant families with prepaid debit cards that they can only use to buy food or baby supplies at certain types of stores in the city.

The $53 million pilot program is meant to be a more cost-effective alternative to “the city’s current system of providing non-perishable food boxes to migrant families staying in hotels,” a spokesperson for New York City Mayor Eric Adams said.

“What had been happening in this particular program is that every couple of days, we were going to the hotel and we were delivering food,” Adams’ chief of staff Camille Joseph Varlack said during a Feb. 5 media briefing. “And so what ended up happening is you have the cost for the food itself as well as the cost for delivery services.”

The new pilot program providing migrants with prepaid debit cards will save the city an estimated $600,000 per month and $7.2 million per year, the mayor’s office said.

A spokesperson for MoCaFi, a financial technology company the city is partnering with for the pilot program, said the cards will be loaded with about $12 per person per day for 28 days.

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Feb 9, 2024 17:40:35   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
Barre wrote:
New York City is launching a pilot program to provide 500 migrant families with prepaid debit cards that they can only use to buy food or baby supplies at certain types of stores in the city.

The $53 million pilot program is meant to be a more cost-effective alternative to “the city’s current system of providing non-perishable food boxes to migrant families staying in hotels,” a spokesperson for New York City Mayor Eric Adams said.

“What had been happening in this particular program is that every couple of days, we were going to the hotel and we were delivering food,” Adams’ chief of staff Camille Joseph Varlack said during a Feb. 5 media briefing. “And so what ended up happening is you have the cost for the food itself as well as the cost for delivery services.”

The new pilot program providing migrants with prepaid debit cards will save the city an estimated $600,000 per month and $7.2 million per year, the mayor’s office said.

A spokesperson for MoCaFi, a financial technology company the city is partnering with for the pilot program, said the cards will be loaded with about $12 per person per day for 28 days.
New York City is launching a pilot program to prov... (show quote)


Convert the card to cash and buy contraband. Happens 24/7/365 in every state in the US.

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Feb 10, 2024 05:41:52   #
steve03 Loc: long Lsland
 
Bridges wrote:
Two things:

1. All we need is another excuse for people to stay home in their pajamas, eating snack foods all day and contributing to the burgeoning obese culture of our American society!

2. Some companies offer same-day delivery and most offer next-day service.


I do not go shopping in any stores except Grocery stores anymore. I order everything on line.

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Feb 10, 2024 07:27:23   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
steve03 wrote:
I do not go shopping in any stores except Grocery stores anymore. I order everything on line.


That will be more and more the norm as gas prices rise and people become more isolated, not requiring human interaction. Once shopping was in itself a form of community activity as we would see neighbors in stores and stop to talk, and a lot of older people just liked to talk to strangers and store personnel because they were lonely at home. Now with the internet, a lot of us have formed communities online and talk to specific people we identify as online friends, or just reach out to groups like here on UHH. The trend of not getting out can be seen in our neighborhoods as well as in stores with people not knowing or socializing with those living around us.

We are obsessed with our TVs, computer time, and Tic Tock. There is just no time left to go shopping. Some people hesitate to order through apps like Uber Eats or Door Dash because there is a delivery fee but if you take the government allowance of fifty-seven cents a mile for auto usage and multiply it by maybe a 14-mile round-trip to a store, you will find the price of delivery is about the same as you going to pick up the product and delivery is much more convenient.

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Feb 10, 2024 07:30:18   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
Barre wrote:
New York City is launching a pilot program to provide 500 migrant families with prepaid debit cards that they can only use to buy food or baby supplies at certain types of stores in the city.

The $53 million pilot program is meant to be a more cost-effective alternative to “the city’s current system of providing non-perishable food boxes to migrant families staying in hotels,” a spokesperson for New York City Mayor Eric Adams said.

“What had been happening in this particular program is that every couple of days, we were going to the hotel and we were delivering food,” Adams’ chief of staff Camille Joseph Varlack said during a Feb. 5 media briefing. “And so what ended up happening is you have the cost for the food itself as well as the cost for delivery services.”

The new pilot program providing migrants with prepaid debit cards will save the city an estimated $600,000 per month and $7.2 million per year, the mayor’s office said.

A spokesperson for MoCaFi, a financial technology company the city is partnering with for the pilot program, said the cards will be loaded with about $12 per person per day for 28 days.
New York City is launching a pilot program to prov... (show quote)


Plane fare to where the illegals came from would cost maybe 3 million and save NYC 50 million a year vs. the mayor's estimate of 7.2!

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Feb 10, 2024 08:50:52   #
steve03 Loc: long Lsland
 
Bridges wrote:
That will be more and more the norm as gas prices rise and people become more isolated, not requiring human interaction. Once shopping was in itself a form of community activity as we would see neighbors in stores and stop to talk, and a lot of older people just liked to talk to strangers and store personnel because they were lonely at home. Now with the internet, a lot of us have formed communities online and talk to specific people we identify as online friends, or just reach out to groups like here on UHH. The trend of not getting out can be seen in our neighborhoods as well as in stores with people not knowing or socializing with those living around us.


We are obsessed with our TVs, computer time, and Tic Tock. There is just no time left to go shopping. Some people hesitate to order through apps like Uber Eats or Door Dash because there is a delivery fee but if you take the government allowance of fifty-seven cents a mile for auto usage and multiply it by maybe a 14-mile round-trip to a store, you will find the price of delivery is about the same as you going to pick up the product and delivery is much more convenient.
That will be more and more the norm as gas prices ... (show quote)


I worked in retail all my life for over 50 years.The large retail companies do not care about security any more they are more concerned about pay roll. They have cut security back to a point of non-existence. They are hiring people that they don't train so they really don't know what they are doing. Today when you walk in a store you have a time trying to find someone to help you. In one department store I worked for they only had one employee on a floor and one person on checkout, and people wonder why there is shoplifting?

When you go shopping at a store you really don't know if they have the item your looking for and neither does the employees so your on your own. In a Mall you may have to visit a number of stores to find what you're looking for. So why not just go to Amazon or B&H to get what you want on-line without taking an afternoon. Some people may have the time to shop like that but if you are a working person you don't have the time.

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Feb 10, 2024 08:58:39   #
Triple G
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
No, not for unruly kids, I suspect that if it was a daily occurrence that they would eventually be held by store staff until a sheriff could arrive, but the other BS spoken about in this thread such as adults taking high value objects would be met with resistance in a small town, it would not be tolerated.


Something that serious is not likely to happen in a small town. Everybody knows everybody and unless high on drugs and not thinking straight, no one thinks they could get away with it. That kind of thing happens where anonymity exists.

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Feb 10, 2024 21:46:18   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
steve03 wrote:
I worked in retail all my life for over 50 years.The large retail companies do not care about security any more they are more concerned about pay roll. They have cut security back to a point of non-existence. They are hiring people that they don't train so they really don't know what they are doing. Today when you walk in a store you have a time trying to find someone to help you. In one department store I worked for they only had one employee on a floor and one person on checkout, and people wonder why there is shoplifting?

When you go shopping at a store you really don't know if they have the item your looking for and neither does the employees so your on your own. In a Mall you may have to visit a number of stores to find what you're looking for. So why not just go to Amazon or B&H to get what you want on-line without taking an afternoon. Some people may have the time to shop like that but if you are a working person you don't have the time.
I worked in retail all my life for over 50 years.T... (show quote)


A sad point, but a valid one.

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