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Jan 28, 2024 23:17:10   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Are you agreeing or disagreeing with yourself?


Hey Superfly-don't blow up at me! I corrected immediately and quoted the incorrect post. Keep reading before incendiary comments.

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Jan 28, 2024 23:35:16   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
jbk224 wrote:
Hey Superfly-don't blow up at me! I corrected immediately and quoted the incorrect post. Keep reading before incendiary comments.


That’s not what I see. You commented “Not true” to apparently nobody. Then you quoted your own “Not true” and said nothing but “Not true” again. And I wasn’t blowing up at you. I was mocking you! 😜🤪🤣😂🤣

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Jan 28, 2024 23:52:24   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Bill_de wrote:
With HOYA's approval, Kenko Tokina Co., Ltd. delivers HOYA brand filters around the world.

https://hoyafilterusa.com/pages/about#:~:text=A%20comprehensive%20optical%20manufacturer%2C%20Kenko,of%20photographic%20and%20optical%20accessories.

Do we ever really know where/who products come from?

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Do we ever really care, so long as they are cost competitive and they work as advertised?

Yes, apparently, SOMETIMES. There's always someone who will yell, "Bah 'Huhmurricun."

But by and large, people buy what they can afford, and manufacturers who can make things both better and less costly win the business wherever they are. Most of the world's auto makers have proven time and time again that they cannot compete with Toyota build quality and long term reliability. They figured out how to build cars profitably here. But Apple has been unable to find ways to make iPhones profitably here in the USA. So it goes with Japanese camera companies, who often make their cameras and lenses in Vietnam or Thailand or Malaysia or China.

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Jan 29, 2024 05:29:27   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
I found that there is nothing wrong with the less expensive filters when it comes to UV/IR. At $5.usd, Order two in case you lose one. Cheers.

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Jan 29, 2024 08:13:05   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
User ID wrote:
Removing it before shipping wont fool them. They will KNOW.


Not true.

(To TNT...yes, sorry)

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Jan 29, 2024 08:53:02   #
Bayou
 
Canisdirus wrote:
The glass in UV filters was a lot weaker than the glass used in the front element of lenses so the filters break from drops that don’t even ding a lens, regardless of whether or not there’s a filter on it. Also, if a lens was hit hard enough that the front element was damaged, there was normally large amounts of internal damage too. Even in the few cases where the UV filter might have protected the front element, the lens was dead anyway.

Steve Perry

It's the same with the clear glass filters...protection is an illusion.
The glass in UV filters was a lot weaker than the ... (show quote)




Anyone who believes that a tough thing (lens element) can be protected from breakage by placing a fragile thing (filter) over it should watch UHH member Steve Perry's test on Youtube. I'll never cease to be amazed at people who break a filter and then claim that this somehow saved the lens from breakage. Makes not one whit of sense.

https://youtu.be/P0CLPTd6Bds?feature=shared

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Jan 29, 2024 09:08:42   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Bayou wrote:


Anyone who believes that a tough thing (lens element) can be protected from breakage by placing a fragile thing (filter) over it should watch UHH member Steve Perry's test on Youtube. I'll never cease to be amazed at people who break a filter and then claim that this somehow saved the lens from breakage. Makes not one whit of sense.

https://youtu.be/P0CLPTd6Bds?feature=shared
img src="https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/images/s... (show quote)


Unless, of course, you have experienced this yourself and your lens was protected.
No one is to say that without the filter my lens would have been ok anyway. But I don't want to take that chance.

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Jan 29, 2024 09:08:56   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Bayou wrote:


Anyone who believes that a tough thing (lens element) can be protected from breakage by placing a fragile thing (filter) over it should watch UHH member Steve Perry's test on Youtube. I'll never cease to be amazed at people who break a filter and then claim that this somehow saved the lens from breakage. Makes not one whit of sense.

https://youtu.be/P0CLPTd6Bds?feature=shared
img src="https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/images/s... (show quote)


The filter is effective in keeping acid mist, welding sparks, salt spray, sand, dust, kid vomit, and fingerprints off of your front lens element. It enhances the water resistance of water resistant lenses. It usually protects the screw threads of the lens' accessory ring, if it is brass.

A LENS HOOD OR SHADE *may* protect your lens from a fall. WITHOUT a shade, a straight fall onto a small sharp object, however, may cause the filter to shatter and scratch the lens, or crack the front element.

There are many variables. How big and heavy is the lens? How far does it fall? What does it fall onto? What is the shade made of? Does it snap on, screw on, bayonet on…? Is the lens well constructed? Will there be internal damage you can't see (electronics, focus motors, zoom mechanism, etc.)?

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Jan 29, 2024 09:25:55   #
jeffhacker Loc: Dallas, Texas
 
Thanks to everybody here. A lot of good advice. I’ll order a Hoya from B&H!

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Jan 29, 2024 09:40:38   #
Canisdirus
 
Bayou wrote:


Anyone who believes that a tough thing (lens element) can be protected from breakage by placing a fragile thing (filter) over it should watch UHH member Steve Perry's test on Youtube. I'll never cease to be amazed at people who break a filter and then claim that this somehow saved the lens from breakage. Makes not one whit of sense.

https://youtu.be/P0CLPTd6Bds?feature=shared
img src="https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/images/s... (show quote)


That's right...but folks just go with the flow...even if it's wrong.

Why I suggested the Kolari with gorilla glass. If you want protection...you will need seriously strong glass.

99% of those with UV filters...have useless protection.

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Jan 29, 2024 10:46:09   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Would your mother let you outside with only a hood?

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Jan 29, 2024 11:08:53   #
Canisdirus
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Would your mother let you outside with only a hood?


Conversely...would you put a plastic sheet over your $1000 dollar rain coat.

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Jan 29, 2024 11:13:34   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
The older Nikon 200-400 came with a protective glass filter.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3256676

According to the manual the front protective glass has a rubber ring around it that you simply unscrew. It comes with a dedicated padded case for the 'filter' so I guess Nikon knows some people will remove it.

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Jan 29, 2024 11:17:51   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Conversely...would you put a plastic sheet over your $1000 dollar rain coat.


Maybe you would? Me, I use a consensus 'great' filter over all my lenses.

If you put a $15 filter on your lens, you get what you deserve. If you consider every filter to be equivalent to a $15 filter, you don't know enough to be responding to questions about filters.

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Jan 29, 2024 12:05:30   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
The filter is effective in keeping acid mist, welding sparks, salt spray, sand, dust, kid vomit, and fingerprints off of your front lens element. It enhances the water resistance of water resistant lenses. It usually protects the screw threads of the lens' accessory ring, if it is brass.


Exactly. Forget protection against breakage if a lens is dropped. Yours is the best reason for keeping a filter on a lens. I have had to get rid of some old coated filters because the coating was scratched from wiping abrasive contamination off of them The idea that this could happen with my lenses is unthinkable.

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