Last night I watched two movies involving robots and AI, and I suspect it's a glimpse of the future. Both are on Prime, and both are worth watching.
"M3gan" is about a toy company that makes a very lifelike, four-foot-tall doll. It thinks and learns, and it is autonomous. It is "paired" with its owner, and it's programmed to protect its owner.
"The Alpha Test" is about "Home Assistants" that look human, except for their heads. Like the M3gan doll, they are programmed to think and to learn. They also connect to form one large consciousness. This film won't be nominated for an Oscar, but it does present ideas worth considering. One mistake - every "Alpha" was named "Alpha," not "Alpha 1," Alpha 2," etc.
Both of these films emphasize the dangers of AI.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8760708/
VIKI is another example.....
Shellback
Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
My daughters talked about M3gan and that we should watch it. There have been a lot of movies with this theme over time - Here are some movies of technology gone wrong that I have watched: 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) - inspired by Clarke's 1951 short story "The Sentinel”, Colossus: The Forbin Project - 1970, Westworld (1973), Demon Seed (1977), Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979), Saturn 3 (1980), War Games (1983), The Terminator (1984-2019), Chopping Mall (1986), Deadly Friend (1986), The Matrix (1999), I, Robot (2004), Transformers (2007), The Machine (2013), Transcendence (2014), Avengers: Age Of Ultron (2015), Uncanny (2015), and Morgan (2016)
With what is happening with AI right now, I wonder how the developers plan to control their program. They’re already having problems with it putting out false information even though they are programmed not to - so, theoretically, we could be looking at some of these movies becoming a reality…
Shellback wrote:
My daughters talked about M3gan and that we should watch it. There have been a lot of movies with this theme over time - Here are some movies of technology gone wrong that I have watched: 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) - inspired by Clarke's 1951 short story "The Sentinel”, Colossus: The Forbin Project - 1970, Westworld (1973), Demon Seed (1977), Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979), Saturn 3 (1980), War Games (1983), The Terminator (1984-2019), Chopping Mall (1986), Deadly Friend (1986), The Matrix (1999), I, Robot (2004), Transformers (2007), The Machine (2013), Transcendence (2014), Avengers: Age Of Ultron (2015), Uncanny (2015), and Morgan (2016)
With what is happening with AI right now, I wonder how the developers plan to control their program. They’re already having problems with it putting out false information even though they are programmed not to - so, theoretically, we could be looking at some of these movies becoming a reality…
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Yes, sci-fi movies are full of inaccuracies because they are both scientific and fictional. Their goal is simply entertainment. the problem arises when people accept everything they see in movies as fact.
As for control, profit will be the overriding control. "Okay, maybe it will be dangerous, but we'll make millions with this!"
Shellback
Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
jerryc41 wrote:
... "Okay, maybe it will be dangerous, but we'll make millions with this!"
That’s the scary part - greed over safety.
The threat of AI is not robots taking over the world like the movie "Terminator". It is far more likely that AI will allow computers to covertly invade other computer networks such as banking, the stock markets, digital currency, the military, and other networks now considered to be secure.
Why invest all of the time, effort, and expense in developing nuclear weapons when you can simply control someone else's missiles? Make planes fall out of the sky, skew satellite communications, power grids, water and sanitation networks, and much more. Oh, and let's not forget AI may have a future in weaponizing infectious viruses causing plagues on targeted populations and famine of crops. It is not a robot that I fear, it is mankind that I fear.
There was a human vs AI sci fi movie that came out last year - The Creator.
DirtFarmer
Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
Shellback wrote:
... They’re already having problems with it putting out false information even though they are programmed not to…
That is likely to be a big problem. First of all, how do you 'program AI to avoid false information'? Information is information. There is no way to tell whether it's true or false without doing some research and to do that you have to pick good sources. How does AI pick its sources?
Secondly, there are too many people who believe false things. So those people can install false information into AI while thinking it is true.
DirtFarmer wrote:
That is likely to be a big problem. First of all, how do you 'program AI to avoid false information'? Information is information. There is no way to tell whether it's true or false without doing some research and to do that you have to pick good sources. How does AI pick its sources?
Secondly, there are too many people who believe false things. So those people can install false information into AI while thinking it is true.
I once saw a story of an AI generated term paper where it turned out all the footnotes were made up.
Shellback
Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
JohnSwanda wrote:
I once saw a story of an AI generated term paper where it turned out all the footnotes were made up.
Some lawyers have made the news for using AI briefs - and getting fined and sanctioned for it. May/Jun of last year, a bunch of articles on it - and they charge how much per hour???
One I haven't seen mentioned is Ex Machina. Another AI gone wrong, but very good,
jerryc41 wrote:
Last night I watched two movies involving robots and AI, and I suspect it's a glimpse of the future. Both are on Prime, and both are worth watching.
"M3gan" is about a toy company that makes a very lifelike, four-foot-tall doll. It thinks and learns, and it is autonomous. It is "paired" with its owner, and it's programmed to protect its owner.
"The Alpha Test" is about "Home Assistants" that look human, except for their heads. Like the M3gan doll, they are programmed to think and to learn. They also connect to form one large consciousness. This film won't be nominated for an Oscar, but it does present ideas worth considering. One mistake - every "Alpha" was named "Alpha," not "Alpha 1," Alpha 2," etc.
Both of these films emphasize the dangers of AI.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8760708/Last night I watched two movies involving robots a... (
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Oh that's not possible here, The Powers That Be will protect us. BTW
I have two bridges for sale.
sippyjug104 wrote:
Why invest all of the time, effort, and expense in developing nuclear weapons when you can simply control someone else's missiles?
I fear that's coming. Hackers have already gotten into all sorts of businesses and utilities, including our local hospitals. Someone screwed up Iran's nuclear activity, but that was a good thing.
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