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Jan 3, 2024 07:57:28   #
robertkjr3d Loc: Ann Arbor, MI
 
Another user described it as a "moiré pattern". Is there an easy way to repair at least some of these? I'm very picky, and I don't like the look. I think your eyes are drawn to that imperfection, in the larger picture. I know I can zoom-in 1) pick-color 2) pencil/airbrush some fill-in. But that might take a long time. I'll tell you what I don't have is: "Adobe". I have "Gimp"/"Rawthereapee"/"Topaz", but not a subscription to "Photoshop".

How were the waves created in the first place? Oh, either from it being converted to JPG, or from the sharpening or maybe that's just the breaks of the lower resolution of the older camera I was using at the time. I looked at my original JPG image that I currently have, and it still has the waves. I no longer have the 'RAW' version of this. Well I don't think I do any where.



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Jan 3, 2024 08:02:55   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Are you referring to the moiré pattern on the upper deck railing???
No idea.....

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Jan 3, 2024 08:05:17   #
robertkjr3d Loc: Ann Arbor, MI
 
Longshadow wrote:
Are you referring to the moiré pattern on the upper deck railing???
No idea.....

Yes, 'moiré pattern', that's a more scientific way to describe it.

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Jan 3, 2024 08:17:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
This may be a starting point to investigate:
https://www.google.com/search?q=can+you+eliminate+a+moire+pattern+in+a+photo&sca_esv=595361800&source=hp&ei=Il6VZZ75EKv9ptQP7fSo4Ag&iflsig=AO6bgOgAAAAAZZVsMnNvWTScx3IkXP4DmXpLnBfVxFnH&oq=can+you+eliminate+a+moire+pattern+in+a+&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IidjYW4geW91IGVsaW1pbmF0ZSBhIG1vaXJlIHBhdHRlcm4gaW4gYSAqAggAMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKsCMgUQIRirAjIFECEYqwJIzc4BUABY_rIBcAB4AJABAJgB2QKgAb4aqgEIMzQuMy4wLjK4AQHIAQD4AQHCAhEQLhiABBixAxiDARjHARjRA8ICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgILEC4YgAQYsQMYgwHCAg4QLhiABBiKBRixAxiDAcICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgIFEAAYgATCAgUQLhiABMICDhAAGIAEGIoFGLEDGIMBwgILEC4YgAQYxwEY0QPCAhQQLhiABBixAxiDARjHARivARiOBcICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgIOEC4YgAQYsQMYxwEY0QPCAgYQABgWGB7CAggQABgWGB4YD8ICCxAAGIAEGIoFGIYDwgIFECEYnwU&sclient=gws-wiz

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Jan 3, 2024 08:48:23   #
robertkjr3d Loc: Ann Arbor, MI
 
I got it... Good enough anyway. I used "Free Select" around the biggest unattractive section, then I used the "Symmetric Nearest Neighbor..." Tool. The default options already give me close... but then I dialed it in a bit. It's a bit better looking. My eyes are no longer drawn to the imperfection.



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Jan 3, 2024 09:09:32   #
TonyBot
 
And not being familiar with the action you used, what PP is this?

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Jan 3, 2024 09:10:10   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 

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Jan 3, 2024 09:42:39   #
robertkjr3d Loc: Ann Arbor, MI
 
TonyBot wrote:
And not being familiar with the action you used, what PP is this?

Sorry, maybe I'm too old for the acronym lingo. 'PP' is something I do in the bathroom?

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Jan 3, 2024 09:43:26   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
robertkjr3d wrote:
Sorry, maybe I'm too old for the acronym lingo. 'PP' is something I do in the bathroom?


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Jan 3, 2024 09:58:57   #
CliffMcKenzie Loc: Lake Athens Texas
 
First, look at other vertical lines in the image...they look fine. I would not assume an old boat railing would not reflect waves. Second, regarding finding the original, going forward, use LRC with a focus on using collections. You said you are "picky". The LRC & PS combined with Topaz is for picky people, me included.

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Jan 3, 2024 10:19:38   #
robertkjr3d Loc: Ann Arbor, MI
 
TonyBot wrote:
And not being familiar with the action you used, what PP is this?

I decided to google the acronym in regards to 'Photography' and I came up with 'Post Processing', ok not PeePee, haha. But I think you meant, what particular software I was using: It's Gimp: https://www.gimp.org/ I don't pay for Photoshop, but I use Gimp and other tools. That's where you find: Filters-->Enhance-->Symetric Nearest Neighbor.

I would assume 'Photoshop' has something similar.

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Jan 3, 2024 10:35:59   #
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robertkjr3d wrote:
Yes, 'moiré pattern', that's a more scientific way to describe it.

Yes, its a moire pattern but it would be seen even if shot on film. IOW, way too coarse to be blamed on a sensor. Such coarse moire is visible by eye. I see them all the time. You probably didnt notice it while you were busy with considering your framing, etc.

Also, if you view mainly by the camera, not much visualizing by naked eye, the pattern may not have been visible in the finder image anywho. But, it is a Real World phenominon, not a digital effect, and you have accurately recorded what was really there.


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Jan 3, 2024 11:10:45   #
robertkjr3d Loc: Ann Arbor, MI
 
User ID wrote:
Yes, its a moire pattern but it would be seen even if shot on film. IOW, way too coarse to be blamed on a sensor. Such coarse moire is visible by eye. I see them all the time. You probably didnt notice it while you were busy with considering your framing, etc.

Also, if you view mainly by the camera, not much visualizing by naked eye, the pattern may not have been visible in the finder inage anywho. But, it is a Real World phenominon, not a digital effect, and you have accurately recorded what was really there.
Yes, its a moire pattern but it would be seen even... (show quote)

Yes, your probably, right. however, I liked the photo better, with some of that distracting stuff edited out.

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Jan 3, 2024 11:30:54   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
I’m glad to see several people mention the fact that the wavy lines could simply be a natural illusion, as I have noticed that phenomenon when viewing a pattern like that with the naked eye. Actually, I kind of like the original pic; just my thought.

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Jan 3, 2024 12:13:09   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 


Great article bill. Thanks for sharing.

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