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Dec 27, 2023 14:05:32   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Usually, in landscape photography at least, mist is a welcome element because it can often isolate an appealing subject that has a distracting background. I've wanted to take this photo of lower Manhattan from the Brooklyn side for a very long time. Unfortunately, this subject works best when the details are crisp and tack sharp. There was no way to get that on this day. So I reached into my bag of recently used Photo Shop filters to see what I could salvage. Let me know if you think this works; or if there is something else that I should have considered from the copious possibilities that you reach for in your bags of tricks.
Erich

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Dec 27, 2023 14:27:47   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
As a salvage it works excellently, but whether it's better than what you could have achieved with a better photo is another matter. If your only intention was to perform a rescue, consider it a success. If your intention was to explore the potential of that particular filter I would say there's more work to do.

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Dec 27, 2023 14:51:15   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
ebrunner wrote:
Usually, in landscape photography at least, mist is a welcome element because it can often isolate an appealing subject that has a distracting background. I've wanted to take this photo of lower Manhattan from the Brooklyn side for a very long time. Unfortunately, this subject works best when the details are crisp and tack sharp. There was no way to get that on this day. So I reached into my bag of recently used Photo Shop filters to see what I could salvage. Let me know if you think this works; or if there is something else that I should have considered from the copious possibilities that you reach for in your bags of tricks.
Erich
Usually, in landscape photography at least, mist i... (show quote)


Looks like an army of posts marching on the city.

If you want one of the foreground and background both sharp then wait for a clear day and do it again focusing on the buildings and then blend the sharp for ground with the sharp background then add an "almost" completely transparent layer of the fog/mist. Covering the full frame.
The result will hopefully be fog/mist with a sharp image showing through.

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Dec 27, 2023 15:41:34   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
R.G. wrote:
As a salvage it works excellently, but whether it's better than what you could have achieved with a better photo is another matter. If your only intention was to perform a rescue, consider it a success. If your intention was to explore the potential of that particular filter I would say there's more work to do.


A totally agree with your assessment. In my perfect world, that day would have been cold and crisp so that each detail would be tack sharp. Oh, yes, I would also order some, but not too many puffy clouds for some interest in the sky. Filters can , as you pointed out, salvage al scene like this; but I would have preferred sharp and clear. If that had been the case, I would have also hung around for the sunset which was only about thirty minutes after this was taken. That scene at night would be fantastic. Maybe next time. Thanks for your input.
Erich

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Dec 27, 2023 15:55:11   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
robertjerl wrote:
Looks like an army of posts marching on the city.

If you want one of the foreground and background both sharp then wait for a clear day and do it again focusing on the buildings and then blend the sharp for ground with the sharp background then add an "almost" completely transparent layer of the fog/mist. Covering the full frame.
The result will hopefully be fog/mist with a sharp image showing through.


I'm hoping for a day like the one you described. I would probably forego the mist in that case. I think this would work best tack sharp. Since I was there, I felt compelled to take the shot and make of it what I could. I like your army of posts analogy. I never thought of it like that; but it is an interesting idea.
Erich

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Dec 27, 2023 17:19:37   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
I like the result, Erich, but the first shot shows what the day was like and has an appeal.

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Dec 27, 2023 17:26:53   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
ebrunner wrote:
I'm hoping for a day like the one you described. I would probably forego the mist in that case. I think this would work best tack sharp. Since I was there, I felt compelled to take the shot and make of it what I could. I like your army of posts analogy. I never thought of it like that; but it is an interesting idea.
Erich


I am reading a book by a guy who tried to carry on the Fellowship of the Rings by Tokien. Titled "Fellowship of the King". Lot of different things marching off to war.

Oh, A) The family/estate sued and got a court order to stop him writing anymore.
B) At first was a pretty good continuation in both story and style, but he rapidly degenerated in a mish mash of details, jumping back and forth through time etc. etc. He tried to outdo old JRR and over did it so that by the halfway point in a 500+ page book I am about to give up on it. And I am the type who will read a bad book until the end, just in hopes it will get better. And of course I paid for it and am determined to get my money's worth.

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Dec 27, 2023 17:56:04   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
Nice Erich. I like the first one just as it is. Maybe a little judicial cropping but nothing else. You don't get perfect conditions every time but in my opinion you have an intriguing photo there.

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Dec 27, 2023 18:36:06   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
UTMike wrote:
I like the result, Erich, but the first shot shows what the day was like and has an appeal.


Good point. It will be nice to have that photo when I want to take a trip down memory lane.
Erich

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Dec 27, 2023 18:40:19   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
robertjerl wrote:
I am reading a book by a guy who tried to carry on the Fellowship of the Rings by Tokien. Titled "Fellowship of the King". Lot of different things marching off to war.

Oh, A) The family/estate sued and got a court order to stop him writing anymore.
B) At first was a pretty good continuation in both story and style, but he rapidly degenerated in a mish mash of details, jumping back and forth through time etc. etc. He tried to outdo old JRR and over did it so that by the halfway point in a 500+ page book I am about to give up on it. And I am the type who will read a bad book until the end, just in hopes it will get better. And of course I paid for it and am determined to get my money's worth.
I am reading a book by a guy who tried to carry on... (show quote)


Good luck with the story. It is flattering that he wants to "continue" the saga; but There can only be one Tolkien. Your author may be very good at his craft; but it is tough to be someone you are not.
Erich

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Dec 27, 2023 18:44:42   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
Nice Erich. I like the first one just as it is. Maybe a little judicial cropping but nothing else. You don't get perfect conditions every time but in my opinion you have an intriguing photo there.


I understand your comment. That day was what it was and no amount of wizardry will change that. Also it is a reminder, as was stated above, of the day I had in the city. Conditions might not have been perfect; but it was great to be in the city with nothing to do other than explore. This morning, while editing several of the photos I have of the "City Bike" racks, I got the app for my phone. Next time maybe I'll tool around the city on an Ebike. That would be fun.
Erich

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Dec 27, 2023 19:14:29   #
veralisa296 Loc: New Jersey
 
ebrunner wrote:
Usually, in landscape photography at least, mist is a welcome element because it can often isolate an appealing subject that has a distracting background. I've wanted to take this photo of lower Manhattan from the Brooklyn side for a very long time. Unfortunately, this subject works best when the details are crisp and tack sharp. There was no way to get that on this day. So I reached into my bag of recently used Photo Shop filters to see what I could salvage. Let me know if you think this works; or if there is something else that I should have considered from the copious possibilities that you reach for in your bags of tricks.
Erich
Usually, in landscape photography at least, mist i... (show quote)


Good work! I almost think there's a tad too much contrast in the first one, Second one is a great.one!

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Dec 27, 2023 19:38:30   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
veralisa296 wrote:
Good work! I almost think there's a tad too much contrast in the first one, Second one is a great.one!



Thank you. I don't get into New York as often as I would like. When I got back yesterday I mentioned to my wife that we should go into the city more often. She agreed with the stipulation that we don't spend hours wandering about looking for things to take photos of. We agreed that we should have more concrete plans like a museum as a goal. As luck would have it, my son bought us tickets to Tourandot this spring, so we will be heading into the city to see an opera. That should be fun!
Erich

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Dec 28, 2023 08:31:34   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
After reading the comments I may be the odd one out, but I prefer the vibrance of the second shot. The first seems flat to me, therefore making it a bit uninteresting.

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Dec 28, 2023 09:58:09   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
jaymatt wrote:
After reading the comments I may be the odd one out, but I prefer the vibrance of the second shot. The first seems flat to me, therefore making it a bit uninteresting.


I posted the first photo so that people would see what it was like SOOC. I was able to breath a bit of life into the original; but it never really got to where I wanted it to be. So I decided to play around with the filters and see what would come of it. I prefer the second shot because of the impact it has; but the first photo, especially the one that I added some contrast and dehaze to, is a better rendition of where I was and what it was like that day. As they say: more than one way to bake a quiche. (I'm sure there are cat owners watching). Thanks for looking and commenting.
Erich

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