Evolution or Creation? This is a response to a post that has since wound up in the "Attic", which is where this may end up as well. Unfortunately that's the way these things go.

KTJohnson Loc: Northern Michigan

This is a response to a post that has since wound up in the "Attic", which is where this may end up as well. Unfortunately that's the way these things go.

Sometimes people have asked me, "You mean to tell me that you are stupid enough to believe that God created everything?" And I answer them, "Yes. What are YOU stupid enough to believe?"

I preached the below sermon in preparation to a Bible study in Genesis.

CONTENT WARNING: This is religious. This is Christian. What you believe about this will affect you for eternity.

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kpmac Loc: Ragley, La

Evolution and God are not mutually exclusive. I have a degree in Biology but I do not refute that there is a God. I'm not smart enough to know everything.

Dannj

kpmac wrote:

Evolution and God are not mutually exclusive. I have a degree in Biology but I do not refute that there is a God. I'm not smart enough to know everything.

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Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona

It can't proven. Either you believe or you don't, it's called Faith.

Floyd Loc: Misplaced Texan in Florence, Alabama

kpmac wrote:

Evolution and God are not mutually exclusive. I have a degree in Biology but I do not refute that there is a God. I'm not smart enough to know everything.

Yes, they are mutually exclusive. Name any "fact" of evolution that meets the Scientific Theory process. Evolution depends totally on man's supposition. Name the number of times their "facts" have been refuted by real science; name a Biblical statement that has been proved to be false; name a myth, back writing happening, or statement attributed to God that has been proven.

Things evolution cannot explain are refuted by stating, "Well, we can't explain it now but it had to have happened"; and call their approach Science. A butterfly has yet to be explained by evolutionist.We are asked to believe this little green, leaf eating worm, using several legs to move from place to place, decides to build himself a house, turn into liquid, and emerge as an insect with a totally different winged body that immediately knows how to fly and eats a completely different diet.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

There may well be a god. I believe (without proof) that almost all religions have a piece of the truth. No religion has all the truth. In general, religions have been invented by men (and women of course). There is no proof that divine inspiration occurs, at least proof that convinces me. Most religions are philosophies that advance civilization and regulate social interaction. There are, of course, outlier 'religions' that are invented to benefit specific individuals.

Regulation of social interaction is useful. It limits anarchy, which is something that basically opposes civilization. I believe that the establishment of forms of worship are irrelevant to the regulation of social interaction. The forms of worship have been a real problem over the centuries. They have caused war and chaos, just as much as human avarice and power lust have.

If there be a god, I am not convinced it (gender terms are irrelevant to such a being) pays any attention to mankind or the future of this planet. Nor am I convinced there is any existence outside our (my) current experience which would provide reward or punishment for my actions. I try to keep my actions consistent with civilization to avoid chaos.

So I guess my religion is called civilization.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

I attended Baylor University, which is a hard core Baptist school. But their biology classes were taught under the framework of evolution. I am an agnostic who believes there may well be some sort of god, but I can't believe in the Christian god. The eternal punishment thing just doesn't make sense to me from a "loving" god. As for evolution, I don't think that is inconsistent with there being a god. It could be the process he used to create and differentiate life.

GHS58 Loc: Missouri, USA

AMEN Brother. Preach On.

Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona

I once a long time ago had a poly-sci instructor told us one day, "People who straddle the fence get saddle sores. Maybe it's time to make up your mind?

Laramie Loc: Tempe

This is religion, it belongs in the Attic.

tramsey Loc: Texas

A nun was asked if she believed in the Big Bang theory. She said "Yes." Then she was asked how she could be a nun and believe in that theory. She said, "Very easy. God said, 'Let there be light and BANG there was light.'"
Yes, I am a Christian and have faith in God and Jesus IS my Savior.

RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri

I really, really like your excellent photography of cars and other matters.

riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas

Laramie wrote:

This is religion, it belongs in the Attic.

It does not belong in the attic. This is a good discussion. Much better than some of the other babbling bullshit that gets posted in the section.
Bruce.

riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas

JohnSwanda wrote:

I attended Baylor University, which is a hard core Baptist school. But their biology classes were taught under the framework of evolution. I am an agnostic who believes there may well be some sort of god, but I can't believe in the Christian god. The eternal punishment thing just doesn't make sense to me from a "loving" god. As for evolution, I don't think that is inconsistent with there being a god. It could be the process he used to create and differentiate life.

Yes, you are right the eternal punishment is a false doctrine that got into many popular denominations however, it is not biblical and it’s not what a loving God will do, but so also Other denominational, beliefs and theories are not actually biblical.
Bruce

riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas

KTJohnson wrote:

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Thank you for sharing this. I am going to print it off and read it later. It’s too early in the morning for me to read it all right now.
Bruce.