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Dec 8, 2023 20:57:35   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
cahale wrote:
A: Don't ask us - ask the (ungrateful) neighbors. B: Why are you outsourcing 4X6. Surely you have at least an 8.5X11 printer.


Most 8.5x11 printers are not photo printers.

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Dec 8, 2023 22:44:43   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
TonyF wrote:
Well, your assumptions are ridiculous. First of all, they are not ungrateful, they asked, and I accepted. And I have a B&W laser printer that serves me well. I do not print any photos. At 29 cents for a 4x6 that I can walk up to and pick up, I'm fine with that.


What assumptions (except that any photographer would want his own printer)? You said nothing about the neighbors paying for anything. Is that to be "assumed?" If so, I would have to "assume" that the photographer should establish preferences first. If you were doing it gratis, then I would "assume" they should have accepted the prints and said "thank you."

Reinforces why I don't take photographs of people - unless they are really good looking.

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Dec 9, 2023 01:29:19   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
TonyF wrote:
Well, your assumptions are ridiculous. First of all, they are not ungrateful, they asked, and I accepted. And I have a B&W laser printer that serves me well. I do not print any photos. At 29 cents for a 4x6 that I can walk up to and pick up, I'm fine with that.


I use have exactly the same printing capability. There is a Walgreens I pass 4 times a week day (twice RT turn in and out). For bigger prints I use Printique, most excellent. And when I really go off the rails there is a top notch printing service $$$.

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Dec 9, 2023 03:09:39   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
cahale wrote:
What assumptions (except that any photographer would want his own printer)? You said nothing about the neighbors paying for anything. Is that to be "assumed?" If so, I would have to "assume" that the photographer should establish preferences first. If you were doing it gratis, then I would "assume" they should have accepted the prints and said "thank you."

Reinforces why I don't take photographs of people - unless they are really good looking.


Nope, both your statements were assumptions. There was no indication anywhere that his neighbors were ungrateful.

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Dec 9, 2023 08:44:55   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
Purchase a 4x6 in each finish and let them choose which they would prefer for their 8x10. Easy peasy.

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Dec 9, 2023 09:02:23   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Jack 13088 wrote:
I use have exactly the same printing capability. There is a Walgreens I pass 4 times a week day (twice RT turn in and out). For bigger prints I use Printique, most excellent. And when I really go off the rails there is a top notch printing service $$$.


My Walgreens just recently removed the last vestige of their photo department...

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Dec 9, 2023 09:56:48   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
larryepage wrote:
My Walgreens just recently removed the last vestige of their photo department...


Nearly all of the low end finishing options are either dead or dying. It's not a viable business option any more. Most folks want images on their screens, not in albums, shoeboxes, or (more than a few) on their walls. Printing is a high end, small volume art now. That is where the remaining demand is.

25 years ago, you could find a mini-lab kiosk in the middle of most any shopping mall. Drugstores and big box stores all had film processing and printing machines, plus central labs for larger prints, posters, and photo trinkets. Comparatively few of those are left.

Several large chains had 150 to 300 mall portrait studios each. Several other large portrait companies had studios in "department stores" and big box stores. Some large portrait companies had thriving church directory businesses. Several large companies had thriving school portrait businesses like the one I worked for. From the late 2000s until now, most of those large portrait companies have sold, merged, or gone out of business entirely.

Photographic paper is not the super-profitable product it once was. Anyone who can afford it, and many who can't, own a smartphone. They network their photos to any place in the world, instantly. Paper can't compete with that.

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Dec 9, 2023 11:04:16   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Nearly all of the low end finishing options are either dead or dying. It's not a viable business option any more. Most folks want images on their screens, not in albums, shoeboxes, or (more than a few) on their walls. Printing is a high end, small volume art now. That is where the remaining demand is.

25 years ago, you could find a mini-lab kiosk in the middle of most any shopping mall. Drugstores and big box stores all had film processing and printing machines, plus central labs for larger prints, posters, and photo trinkets. Comparatively few of those are left.

Several large chains had 150 to 300 mall portrait studios each. Several other large portrait companies had studios in "department stores" and big box stores. Some large portrait companies had thriving church directory businesses. Several large companies had thriving school portrait businesses like the one I worked for. From the late 2000s until now, most of those large portrait companies have sold, merged, or gone out of business entirely.

Photographic paper is not the super-profitable product it once was. Anyone who can afford it, and many who can't, own a smartphone. They network their photos to any place in the world, instantly. Paper can't compete with that.
Nearly all of the low end finishing options are ei... (show quote)


Yes, a lot of those stores, Walmart, Walgreens, CVS, all still offer processing but no longer in store. It’s mostly online mail order now.

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Dec 9, 2023 18:19:53   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Nope, both your statements were assumptions. There was no indication anywhere that his neighbors were ungrateful.


So sorry. I missed the obvious assumption that "we don't like them" meant "thanks for your extreme effort." May they cohabit in bliss for eternity and 3 days.

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Dec 9, 2023 19:20:46   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
cahale wrote:
So sorry. I missed the obvious assumption that "we don't like them" meant "thanks for your extreme effort." May they cohabit in bliss for eternity and 3 days.


You’re the one making assumptions. He clearly said they like the photos but don’t want a glossy finish. Which is normal. You rarely see a glossy finish for portraits. The 4x6’s were like proofs and he’s looking to print 8x10’s.

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Dec 9, 2023 19:28:49   #
coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA
 
As for the surface, check with customer on the options or use a service that offers matte finish (or order matte).
As for the size, yes, 8x12 will do it but not many places carry 8x12.
A mat of course is a solution.
Or, do image size, am10x? Then do a canvas size 10 x 8 and fill in top and bottom if you can.

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Dec 9, 2023 19:31:13   #
TonyF Loc: Bradenton, FL
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
You’re the one making assumptions. He clearly said they like the photos but don’t want a glossy finish. Which is normal. You rarely see a glossy finish for portraits. The 4x6’s were like proofs and he’s looking to print 8x10’s.



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Dec 10, 2023 11:49:09   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
TonyF wrote:
A neighbor had their whole family in for Thanksgiving and wanted me to take their photos, different sets of people, etc. I told her I don't do people, but they insisted.

After some pp, I think the photos came out pretty good and so do they. I then had some 4x6 photos printed at CVS and had them pick out what they wanted.

Well, they do not want the glossy finish. So I went to MPIX which I've seen mentioned here a number of times. I had a chat session and wanted to find out about their finish. This is what they said, '...we have the standard semi gloss that would have a sheen but it is not glossy, or we have a deep matte giclee that would have no sheen at all..."

In your opinion, will MPIX's standard finish (semi gloss) be what my neighbor wants?

As an aside, the one photo of the whole family (of course that one) I screwed up and didn't leave enough space on the sides for an 8x10 that they want, but I can do an 8x12.
A neighbor had their whole family in for Thanksgiv... (show quote)

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Dec 10, 2023 11:49:22   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
Why don't you ask them??

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