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Oct 27, 2011 13:23:01   #
plieber
 
Judi wrote:
Aha ---- thank you for a most economical solution to focusing light. Quick question: noted that the camera is sitting on some sort of platform that extends outward to the angled foam board. Is there a small bolt holding the pieces together?
Thanks again for the fun I intend to have this afternoon.


Bolts hold all of the pieces together including the camera. The whole rig is surprisingly light, but a bit unwieldy.

The plastic down spout extension itself is very stable and light weight.

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Oct 27, 2011 16:32:53   #
nikondaddy Loc: Mayfield,Kentucky
 
I love your spirit this is how things happen I made me one our old plastric bottles and even used a coffee filter. Photogrphy is about light and those who dare to explore it can get things they never knew by experimenting. and with digital why not.?

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Oct 27, 2011 16:45:17   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
BobBee asked, "Let me ask the obvious, what deficiencies do you notice that would not enable this to be used for pro situations."

The main thing is that "people do not recognize that which they do not recognize, too many lack imagination." So for a pro situation, you need a camera that looks like a SLR, and Flash that looks like off the shelf, lest they think you are off the wall. Image baby, Image.

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Oct 27, 2011 18:09:48   #
Bobbee
 
Between the line, I guess that is the answer. One would only notice the lack of price of an atachment if they were a PRO. They tend to not talk to you anyway unless it's to point out your flaws.

Funny, I was at the church of a friend, getitng married (taking shots for free), I was standing right behind the photographer and heard him say "all the guys line up on the right, girls on the left, AGAINST THE RAIL." I said "It might be better in a V formation towards the top". Well you would have thought I had asked him for sex. God did he get condensending. Then after he was finished with me, he quickly asked the party to form a V. Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wonder where he got that idea from?

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Oct 27, 2011 18:14:29   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
One of these days soon I or some one should start a DIY forum. I have made a number of gadgets for one or a few time use. Besides that I enjoy the challenge like plieber does.
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Oct 27, 2011 18:20:31   #
Fifty-Fifty Loc: Arkansas
 
Im all in for a DIY forum here be a great idea i think

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Oct 27, 2011 19:12:00   #
plieber
 
Bobbee wrote:
dpullum wrote:
To invent is to live. While it may look strange, the key is that it works. On that I congratulate you. I like the concept of ring flashes, bought one for $37 but that was as much fun as designing one. While it may invoke a chuckle from some, working with the likes of this leads to a greater understanding of the principles of lighting.
dp don


Let me ask the obvious, what defeciencies do you notice that would not enable this to be used for pro situations. Is it just the cost, the approach or is the device not up to producing the quality.

Maybe this is the next wave. Remember what the said about digital when it first came out.

I have the Speedlite Ring Flash adapter someone presented me with. It is OK, but awkward, and a slight albatros on the camera, You suggestion looks and I would think, performs better.
quote=dpullum To invent is to live. While it may ... (show quote)


Sorry I took so long in getting back to you, but in order to answer you I had to dig out my Gary Fong Lightsphere and compare it to mine (see attached photo). In photo after photo the light is virtually the same and I consider the Lightsphere to be a great diffuser. The only difference that I can see is that my diffuser may be slightly warmer.

You might note that I modified my "gutter light" a bit. I put the wide angle auto mirror at the top and cut a "window" to let the light out.

Fong Lightsphere Comparison
Fong Lightsphere Comparison...

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Oct 27, 2011 19:58:06   #
plieber
 
Thought you DIY guys would like to get a close look at the wide angle auto mirror. I've used these babies in a couple of my homemade lights (most often as the light blocker/light spreader in beauty dishes). They're made of lightweight plastic so they are easy to drill, saw, and grind.

Wide Angle Auto Mirror
Wide Angle Auto Mirror...

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Oct 27, 2011 20:15:25   #
Bobbee
 
plieber wrote:
Bobbee wrote:
dpullum wrote:
To invent is to live. While it may look strange, the key is that it works. On that I congratulate you. I like the concept of ring flashes, bought one for $37 but that was as much fun as designing one. While it may invoke a chuckle from some, working with the likes of this leads to a greater understanding of the principles of lighting.
dp don


Let me ask the obvious, what defeciencies do you notice that would not enable this to be used for pro situations. Is it just the cost, the approach or is the device not up to producing the quality.

Maybe this is the next wave. Remember what the said about digital when it first came out.

I have the Speedlite Ring Flash adapter someone presented me with. It is OK, but awkward, and a slight albatros on the camera, You suggestion looks and I would think, performs better.
quote=dpullum To invent is to live. While it may ... (show quote)


Sorry I took so long in getting back to you, but in order to answer you I had to dig out my Gary Fong Lightsphere and compare it to mine (see attached photo). In photo after photo the light is virtually the same and I consider the Lightsphere to be a great diffuser. The only difference that I can see is that my diffuser may be slightly warmer.

You might note that I modified my "gutter light" a bit. I put the wide angle auto mirror at the top and cut a "window" to let the light out.
quote=Bobbee quote=dpullum To invent is to live.... (show quote)


I very much apoligize. I do like your inventiveness and love when people apply them selves. I have sen other posts of yous and I appreciate the way your mind works. I do the same but alas my inventiveness is confined to the software industry. To get back on track, my comment was targeted towards the person who offered up the suggestion for "MeiKe FC-100 check it out on EBay".

Keep on posting your inventions, I absolutly love them.

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Oct 27, 2011 20:20:42   #
plieber
 
Well Hell. I thought I had an unique idea. Turns out Mr. Fong beat me to the punch (see photo). To make the "Gutter Light" into a very close approximation of "Gary Fong's Collapsible Lightsphere" all I needed to do is cut away about 80% of the middle part of gutter down spout extension. I would then have two of my own collapsible "lightspheres". Heck, it got Popular Photography Magazine Outstanding Products Award.

Pop Photography Award
Pop Photography Award...

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Oct 27, 2011 20:35:44   #
plieber
 
By the way here's another useful item for you DIY guys and gals. With very little modification a 2 X 3 Gutter to Downspout Connector fits my electronic flash perfectly. At first with three pieces of foam board glued in with double-sided mounting tape it's a slight struggle to get my flash on. But after that it gets easier but still maintains a very secure grip. I've used this connector to mount my flash on several light modifiers. Several were shown in my previous posts, "My Homemade Photo Equipment" and "More Homemade Photo Equipment Views".

2 X 3 Gutter to Down Spout Connector
2 X 3 Gutter to Down Spout Connector...

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Oct 27, 2011 21:11:24   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
BobBee, and plieber, understand that I am not putting down what some may call Rube Goldberg ideas, that has been my call and trade along my engineering career. AKA "K-Mart Chemist"

What I am saying is that the general public only knows what they know and does not accept things that do not look familiar or off the shelf professional. Simply stated.

I have my own DIY Zoo,,, Flash on a stick that you hold out at arms length with a dowel stick giving another two. Allows a flash from the side of the subject, high low what ever.

A weighted plastic pint container with a # 10 solid copper wire sprouting out of it ,, with a LED flash lite for Macro Lighting of flowers.

Ad Nausea,,, Again, I like your light system and it is experimentally educational and useful.

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Oct 28, 2011 21:56:13   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
fourcam wrote:
What if it rains?


LoL

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Oct 28, 2011 22:11:10   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
plieber wrote:
The other day I was reading about this new wave of ring flashes...


It's not really new. This is just another 4-Tops song! (...same 'ol song to a different tune...)

Just about everything they now have to redirect light, we used a similar contraption of it, some 50 years ago.

Only thing is, much of the material had to be made back then using things like wood, metal, paint, etc. (Don't think they had plastic though.)

BTW: I really like the way Plieber thinks!

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Oct 29, 2011 04:38:29   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
OK guys let the fun begin! Take an old flash unit from a disp camera (free from drug store photo ((under the)) counter.) Replace the capacitor with a big one (op voltage important) ,,, just takes longer to charge. Replace the flash tube with a BIG one and Bang,,, and,,, as big G said,, Let there be light. How many $ not much See:
www.goldmine-elec.com

Large capacitor, recall in parallel +to+ -to- they add.
www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G13596

Strobe (flash) tube:
www.goldmine-elec-products.com/products.asp?dept=1208

While the voltage may reach out and bite you just short across the +- terminals of the capacitor to discharge them; don't do like we did when kids and ask a friend to pick it up and give it to you and zzzzap. No, not in our modern world and especially not on HallOween!

d/p don

PS: Also for my #10wire supported 50 lumen flash light:
www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G18327

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