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How Close Is That Photo to the Truth? What to Know in the Age of AI
Nov 17, 2023 21:22:44   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
I know that there is a lot of interest here about Machine Learning and AI, and some concern about where it's taking us, et al. Here is an interesting article on CNET about editing, fakery, ethics, the Content Authenticity Initiative, who is working on this and how, and other tidbits of info about the AI revolution as it pertains to photography.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/features/how-close-is-that-photo-to-the-truth-what-to-know-in-the-age-of-ai/?fbclid=IwAR0DxqHjC847TsFBWRRIHWrqKQSjFpcqjUrG0rc6EzvG1hGfCk_q-NcAb0I

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Nov 17, 2023 23:42:58   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
Very interesting, Terry, thanks for sharing.

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Nov 18, 2023 00:42:23   #
NickGee Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Great article. Thanks for the link. Most interesting is the onset of credentialing technologies and the extent to which the big players in the industry are buying in. This should go far toward defining and filtering the fake, and not eliminating it (it's not all bad, depending on context), but rather simply making it apparent.

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Nov 18, 2023 08:44:17   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
terryMc wrote:
I know that there is a lot of interest here about Machine Learning and AI, and some concern about where it's taking us, et al. Here is an interesting article on CNET about editing, fakery, ethics, the Content Authenticity Initiative, who is working on this and how, and other tidbits of info about the AI revolution as it pertains to photography.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/features/how-close-is-that-photo-to-the-truth-what-to-know-in-the-age-of-ai/?fbclid=IwAR0DxqHjC847TsFBWRRIHWrqKQSjFpcqjUrG0rc6EzvG1hGfCk_q-NcAb0I
I know that there is a lot of interest here about ... (show quote)


Photo's, on their own, are no longer excepted as fact in the courtroom.

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Nov 18, 2023 08:51:36   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
billnikon wrote:
Photo's, on their own, are no longer excepted as fact in the courtroom.


I did some forensic photography years ago, in the film era, and even then I was required to testify that my photos were a true representation, or the attorneys had to stipulate that they were. Photographs have never been able to automatically be regarded as "true". Very early on in the history of photography photographers were adding or removing objects from photos, swapping skies, etc. in the darkroom. It's just much easier to do it now with digital.

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Nov 18, 2023 11:42:50   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
I also wanted to add that photographs can be misleading or false without any darkroom or digital manipulation after they are taken. What is included or excluded from the composition, the angle the photo was taken, the timing of the exposure, wide angle or telephoto lens effects, the context of the photo, or staging photos can all effect the "truth" of a photographs.

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Nov 18, 2023 14:06:00   #
elee950021 Loc: New York, NY
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I did some forensic photography years ago, in the film era, and even then I was required to testify that my photos were a true representation, or the attorneys had to stipulate that they were. Photographs have never been able to automatically be regarded as "true."...


Yes, photographs, on their own, have never been accepted in the courtroom. There will be an authority (the photographer or lawyer) who will testify that the photograph is a true and accurate likeness of the scene, object, person, etc. Many years ago, before he passed, a NYC police photographer friend told me of his experiences in the department doing mugshots and other forensic police work.

Be well! Ed

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