Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV

just bought an R5; anyone have experience / advice on using and how / when to use DP ? any photos anyone can post that can clearly illustrate pic taking with and one without using DP ?

MJPerini

It has been available since the 5D4 (which I own) DPRaw is a real advance in capability , albeit a small and somewhat inconvenient to use.
You are limited to in camera , or DPP use, and files captured with DPRaw were not readable by my editor of choice.
So unless there is a known need for those limited capabilities, it didn't pay for me to capture files that way.
Here is a recent article from Canon Europe explaining use and capabilities: https://www.canon-europe.com/cameras/eos-r5/dual-pixel-raw-mode/#:~:text=In%20Dual%20Pixel%20RAW%20mode,get%20landscapes%20looking%20their%20best.

The 5D4 is the best camera I have owned and the R5 is better, but I found DPRaw to be sort of a "Solution in search of a problem"
I do not know if more editors support DPRaw now, but have not heard of any. So you have to change your whole workflow (in advance) each time you use it. Canon does admit that the range of adjustment is very small.
If someone has found a real world use for it I would also be interested to know.
Good Luck

Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV

Thank you

User ID

That sums up the previous thread on this as well. Also, IIRC, no one produced those real world examples one might have wished for.

Seems like if youre critically short of barely one stop of DR then it might be the answer.

The dual pixel sensor design is realistically really all about AF, and DP Raw is simply a "becuz we can" engineering aftter thought.

MJPerini

@ USER ID.... I think you are exactly right on the "because we can engineering" ; -))
Probably....born of a round table meeting of engineers at Canon where the boss said "What ELSE can we use this for....

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Plus the raw files are huge. Tried it just once when I bought the 5D4 - any small advantage not worth the effort.

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

I don't know how Canon implements this feature. I had a Fuji S3 Pro almost 20 years ago that had a full-time paired-pixel system. 12 million sensels to produce a 6 MP image from 6 million pairs of large and small sensels. I never learned exactly how Fuji implemented it either, but that camera produced beautiful images. But it operated painfully slowly and was a nightmare on batteries. So the idea is not anything new.

I would expect that the visible difference might be richer-appearing default images rather than any large increase in dynamic range. I'm not sure exactly what benefit to expect in any raw file. As others have said, a couple of sets of comparison images might be helpful.