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Nov 14, 2023 21:11:57   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
I tried the FV mode on my R7 and I like it. Has anyone else experimented with the FV mode? I would like to hear your reactions.
Thanks,
Jim

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Nov 15, 2023 07:12:17   #
cajunjames Loc: Prairieville, La
 
I tried the Fv mode and that is my most used mode since . I love it because it is so versatile.

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Nov 15, 2023 07:13:19   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
I tried the FV mode on my R7 and I like it. Has anyone else experimented with the FV mode? I would like to hear your reactions.
Thanks,
Jim


Why would you doubt it? Each of the priority settings have their place and do a very good job just as manual has it's place. Hopefully not hidden in this question is the age old snobism that only real photographers use manual?

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Nov 15, 2023 07:21:06   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
I tried the FV mode on my R7 and I like it. Has anyone else experimented with the FV mode? I would like to hear your reactions.
Thanks,
Jim


I wrote a while ago that I love the FV mode.
So glad you have posted that you like it as well.
That is what I leave my R7 set to as default mode. Makes everything right there instantly without having to go to various modes including manual.
How has it worked for you?

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Nov 15, 2023 07:46:09   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
I can't think of a situation where I would prioritise ISO over either of the other two variables. I don't have FV mode but if I did I'm pretty sure I'd just set it to give me the equivalent of M+AutoISO and just leave it there.

Even if I did want to force a value of ISO I'd just play it off against whichever of the other two variables I wanted to play it off against (which would usually be shutter speed, but it could be either, or both) - and all done in M+AutoISO. No need for anything else (especially since it doesn't rule out the possibility of exposure compensation).

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Nov 15, 2023 08:05:13   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
R.G. wrote:
I can't think of a situation where I would prioritise ISO over either of the other two variables. I don't have FV mode but if I did I'm pretty sure I'd just set it to give me the equivalent of M+AutoISO and just leave it there.

Even if I did want to force a value of ISO I'd just play it off against whichever of the other two variables I wanted to play it off against (which would usually be shutter speed, but it could be either, or both) - and all done in M+AutoISO. No need for anything else (especially since it doesn't rule out the possibility of exposure compensation).
I can't think of a situation where I would priorit... (show quote)


You obviously have no idea what FV is and how it works.

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Nov 15, 2023 08:36:40   #
CliffMcKenzie Loc: Lake Athens Texas
 
Architect1776 wrote:
You obviously have no idea what FV is and how it works.


In the future, may I suggest that one defines their acronym before using it. The most common use of FV is future value.

The answer is "Flexible-priority AE (Fv) mode is a new shooting mode offered by some Canon cameras, including the EOS R. It is a combination of the traditional shooting modes such as Manual (M) mode, Aperture-priority AE (Av) mode, and Shutter-priority AE (Tv) modes…In Fv mode you can set the shutter speed, aperture and ISO value manually or automatically and, if required, apply exposure compensation." In short, the prior answer by RG was on target.

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Nov 15, 2023 09:08:15   #
User ID
 
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
In the future, may I suggest that one defines their acronym before using it. The most common use of FV is future value.

The answer is "Flexible-priority AE (Fv) mode is a new shooting mode offered by some Canon cameras, including the EOS R. It is a combination of the traditional shooting modes such as Manual (M) mode, Aperture-priority AE (Av) mode, and Shutter-priority AE (Tv) modes…In Fv mode you can set the shutter speed, aperture and ISO value manually or automatically and, if required, apply exposure compensation." In short, the prior answer by RG was on target.
In the future, may I suggest that one defines thei... (show quote)

I wonder if this is just another presentation of something I have been doing forever. Any AE mode used in combination with TOGGLED AEL accomplishes the same thing.

Even if FV is basically the same as toggled AEL, it appears to have a handy advantage. Toggled AEL gets canceled by my Canon cameras if I check my playback. My Nikons and Sonys do NOT cancel AEL like Canon.

Since Canon does cancel the AEL if you check your playback, its good of them to "invent" a cure for this problem of their own creation. So the lack of FV mode on Nikons and Sonys is not a real problem.

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Nov 15, 2023 09:20:00   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
In the future, may I suggest that one defines their acronym before using it. The most common use of FV is future value.

The answer is "Flexible-priority AE (Fv) mode is a new shooting mode offered by some Canon cameras, including the EOS R. It is a combination of the traditional shooting modes such as Manual (M) mode, Aperture-priority AE (Av) mode, and Shutter-priority AE (Tv) modes…In Fv mode you can set the shutter speed, aperture and ISO value manually or automatically and, if required, apply exposure compensation." In short, the prior answer by RG was on target.
In the future, may I suggest that one defines thei... (show quote)


You are clueless about what FV is.
Anyone can Google FV.
But still be clueless about it.
I notice primarily Nikon fanboys seem to denigrate it because of jealously or ignorance.
It is a great mode and easy to use.
So unless you can intelligently respond to the OP original post go hang out with your Nikon fanboys.
The question is for actual users not haters.

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Nov 15, 2023 09:39:36   #
Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado
 
For the R7 that is what I use. It does take a minute to get used to it after using the R5, then switching back and forth. I wish Canon would keep dials and buttons mor uniform across bodies. I suppose it has to do with weight etc..

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Nov 15, 2023 09:50:52   #
User ID
 
Architect1776 wrote:
You are clueless about what FV is.
Anyone can Google FV.
But still be clueless about it.
I notice primarily Nikon fanboys seem to denigrate it because of jealously or ignorance.
It is a great mode and easy to use.
So unless you can intelligently respond to the OP original post go hang out with your Nikon fanboys.
The question is for actual users not haters.

Nikon and Sony do not need an FV mode. Canon needs it, so I applaud their finally delivering something along that line.

I had just ignored it but now Ill check out whether its an acceptable mimic of toggled AEL as implemented on Nikon and Sony.

Seems an importantupgrade for Canon. Lumix doesnt need it but OM kinda needs it cuz with OM you hafta lose your AEL toimplement BBF :-(

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Nov 15, 2023 09:54:33   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
User ID wrote:
Nikon and Sony do not need an FV mode. Canon needs it, so I applaud their finally delivering something along that line.

I had ignored it but now I will check out whether its a decent mimic of toggled AEL as implemented on Nikon and Sony.


Totally different and far superior.

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Nov 15, 2023 09:56:57   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Architect1776 wrote:
You obviously have no idea what FV is and how it works.


Yes I do.

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Nov 15, 2023 09:59:43   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
....In short, the prior answer by RG was on target.


Thanks .

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Nov 15, 2023 10:07:15   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
For anybody who wants a quick description of what Fv (flexibility value) mode is, here's my offering.

Fv mode is a way to quickly select which exposure variables you want to float (i.e. have the camera control) and which variables you want to control manually. It gives you quick access to Av mode, Tv mode, control over ISO or floating ISO.

If you want it to float, you can float it. If you want control over it, you control it. It's all quickly accessible from one screen and one mode.

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