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Nov 9, 2023 09:45:45   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer mentions the grip that the camera has - you know, that bulge that's provided for those who are right-handed. I see how the grip is handy, but it's a relatively new feature. I've had Nikons and other brands of film cameras that had no grip at all. I don't recall reviews saying that they were difficult to hold, and I never dropped a camera because it was "bulge-less."

Maybe someone can find the first camera that had the grip/bulge, but my thumb and fingers are able to hold onto most things without enhancements. I suspect part of the reason for the grip is to provide the manufacturer with room for internal components. The "grip" is an accidental bonus.

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Nov 9, 2023 09:59:33   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
jerryc41 wrote:
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer mentions the grip that the camera has - you know, that bulge that's provided for those who are right-handed. I see how the grip is handy, but it's a relatively new feature. I've had Nikons and other brands of film cameras that had no grip at all. I don't recall reviews saying that they were difficult to hold, and I never dropped a camera because it was "bulge-less."

Maybe someone can find the first camera that had the grip/bulge, but my thumb and fingers are able to hold onto most things without enhancements. I suspect part of the reason for the grip is to provide the manufacturer with room for internal components. The "grip" is an accidental bonus.
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I don't know if it was the first, but the first camera I had with a grip was a Canon T90.

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Nov 9, 2023 10:13:16   #
BebuLamar
 
jerryc41 wrote:
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer mentions the grip that the camera has - you know, that bulge that's provided for those who are right-handed. I see how the grip is handy, but it's a relatively new feature. I've had Nikons and other brands of film cameras that had no grip at all. I don't recall reviews saying that they were difficult to hold, and I never dropped a camera because it was "bulge-less."

Maybe someone can find the first camera that had the grip/bulge, but my thumb and fingers are able to hold onto most things without enhancements. I suspect part of the reason for the grip is to provide the manufacturer with room for internal components. The "grip" is an accidental bonus.
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer me... (show quote)


Because back then you're supposed to hold and support the camera with your left hand at the bottom of the camera not the right hand with the grip. If you still have one of those cameras without the grip try holding it only with the right hand.

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Nov 9, 2023 10:24:21   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
jerryc41 wrote:
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer mentions the grip that the camera has - you know, that bulge that's provided for those who are right-handed. I see how the grip is handy, but it's a relatively new feature. I've had Nikons and other brands of film cameras that had no grip at all. I don't recall reviews saying that they were difficult to hold, and I never dropped a camera because it was "bulge-less."

Maybe someone can find the first camera that had the grip/bulge, but my thumb and fingers are able to hold onto most things without enhancements. I suspect part of the reason for the grip is to provide the manufacturer with room for internal components. The "grip" is an accidental bonus.
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer me... (show quote)


I cannot find documentation right now, but at about the same time as the OM3 or OM4, I remember that they introduced a "one-sided" 35mm SLR. There was just enough on the left side for the film cassette to fit closely against the pressure plate. Everything else was biased to the right side, but the whole thing was much more compact than their traditional SLRs, which were themselves quite noticeably more compacr than similar cameras of the time. That would have most likely been in the 1980s. I believe that it had a "grip" on the right side. They also had the Centurion APS camera, but I don’t know about them...

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Nov 9, 2023 10:31:35   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
terryMc wrote:
I don't know if it was the first, but the first camera I had with a grip was a Canon T90.

The Canon T90 was designed by an industrial designer who did come up with a supposedly ergonomic design, and soon each label came up with their own variation. I believe the modern “retro”’ designs are intended to go back to ‘the time before’.

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Nov 9, 2023 10:37:17   #
BebuLamar
 
rehess wrote:
The Canon T90 was designed by an industrial designer who did come up with a supposedly ergonomic design, and soon each label came up with their own variation. I believe the modern “retro”’ designs are intended to go back to ‘the time before’.


It was designed by Luigi Colani and the lowly Nikon EM (Nikon first plastic body) was designed by Giorgetto Giugiano.

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Nov 9, 2023 10:39:29   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Because back then you're supposed to hold and support the camera with your left hand at the bottom of the camera not the right hand with the grip. If you still have one of those cameras without the grip try holding it only with the right hand.

I was told to support the lens with my left hand {it was already there in the days of manual focus} and the camera body with my right hand, with the viewfinder braced against my eye-socket - a way I still photograph today. I have a hard time with those who wave a camera around with their right hand and complain about “bajance”.

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Nov 9, 2023 10:53:11   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
jerryc41 wrote:
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer mentions the grip that the camera has - you know, that bulge that's provided for those who are right-handed. I see how the grip is handy, but it's a relatively new feature. I've had Nikons and other brands of film cameras that had no grip at all. I don't recall reviews saying that they were difficult to hold, and I never dropped a camera because it was "bulge-less."

Maybe someone can find the first camera that had the grip/bulge, but my thumb and fingers are able to hold onto most things without enhancements. I suspect part of the reason for the grip is to provide the manufacturer with room for internal components. The "grip" is an accidental bonus.
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer me... (show quote)


My film OM-1 did not get a "bulge" until I added a moter drive (they called it a "winder" because it was under 5 frames a second). The "grip" was where the motor was.

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Nov 9, 2023 10:56:05   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Because back then you're supposed to hold and support the camera with your left hand at the bottom of the camera not the right hand with the grip. If you still have one of those cameras without the grip try holding it only with the right hand.

I have both a Pentax {mine) and a Canon {one I inherited from my Mother} from the 1980's, Both had a subtle grip; not a "handle" such as is typical today {on the far left is a Pentax "Spotmatic" - before grips}.



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Nov 9, 2023 10:56:47   #
BebuLamar
 
wdross wrote:
My film OM-1 did not get a "bulge" until I added a moter drive (they called it a "winder" because it was under 5 frames a second). The "grip" was where the motor was.


The grip was needed because the motor drive at the bottom of the camera make the lens higher and makes it's harder to cradle the camera with just the left hand and thus right hand support is needed. If you remove the drive you can easily hold your OM-1 with just the left hand. When you attach the drive it's significantly more difficult to hold it with just the left hand and thus you need to support it with the right hand with the grip.

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Nov 9, 2023 10:59:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
rehess wrote:
I was told to support the lens with my left hand {it was already there in the days of manual focus} and the camera body with my right hand, with the viewfinder braced against my eye-socket - a way I still photograph today. I have a hard time with those who wave a camera around with their right hand and complain about “bajance”.


Yes!

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Nov 9, 2023 11:16:03   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer mentions the grip that the camera has - you know, that bulge that's provided for those who are right-handed. I see how the grip is handy, but it's a relatively new feature. I've had Nikons and other brands of film cameras that had no grip at all. I don't recall reviews saying that they were difficult to hold, and I never dropped a camera because it was "bulge-less."

Maybe someone can find the first camera that had the grip/bulge, but my thumb and fingers are able to hold onto most things without enhancements. I suspect part of the reason for the grip is to provide the manufacturer with room for internal components. The "grip" is an accidental bonus.
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer me... (show quote)


Just how new, I had one for an old canon AE1 film camera if I remember correctly. I don't have one on my newest, as without, I have a firm hold. I have held other brands witch left the grip wanting. Today the grip also comes with additional battery power which can be very necessary for many making the extra weight worth it.

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Nov 9, 2023 11:17:08   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
jerryc41 wrote:
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer mentions the grip that the camera has - you know, that bulge that's provided for those who are right-handed. I see how the grip is handy, but it's a relatively new feature. I've had Nikons and other brands of film cameras that had no grip at all. I don't recall reviews saying that they were difficult to hold, and I never dropped a camera because it was "bulge-less."

Maybe someone can find the first camera that had the grip/bulge, but my thumb and fingers are able to hold onto most things without enhancements. I suspect part of the reason for the grip is to provide the manufacturer with room for internal components. The "grip" is an accidental bonus.
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer me... (show quote)


Hi Jerry…your observation about the “bulge” on the front of some cameras brings back fond memories. My first experience with a “grip” was on a film camera (Canon F-1) with an “Auto-Winder” accessory attached. Now that was a real grip, it was more like a "handle"! If I recall correctly, the auto-winder required four AA batteries, and the total configuration was relatively heavy. This auto grip design made holding the camera much more comfortable…it was more than a bonus, it was a necessity (for your right hand)! Moving forward to present day, I guess I've developed a personal preference for the built-in grip/handle design and have purchased “grip” accessories for my digital cameras that have inadequate bulges. I find that handle/grips, along with a thumb rest allows me to hold the camera longer with some comfort.

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Nov 9, 2023 11:42:20   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer mentions the grip that the camera has - you know, that bulge that's provided for those who are right-handed. I see how the grip is handy, but it's a relatively new feature. I've had Nikons and other brands of film cameras that had no grip at all. I don't recall reviews saying that they were difficult to hold, and I never dropped a camera because it was "bulge-less."

Maybe someone can find the first camera that had the grip/bulge, but my thumb and fingers are able to hold onto most things without enhancements. I suspect part of the reason for the grip is to provide the manufacturer with room for internal components. The "grip" is an accidental bonus.
In most camera reviews these days, the reviewer me... (show quote)


I had two of this 1980s camera. The little grip on the right was removeable.


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Nov 9, 2023 12:02:29   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
therwol wrote:
The little grip on the right was removeable.

Both I have from that time were too - I guess they were a convenience only. Only later did the manufacturers use the space.

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