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Nov 4, 2023 09:23:14   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
Now having both cameras I find that I am favoring the new baby Z7ii over the Z6ii which I have now for about a year. I know both are similar except for resolution 45 vs 24 MP, fps 10 vs 14, file sizes, lack of AA filter on the Z7ii.
When would you use one over the other (use cases), especially for those that have both cameras? Does going back to the Z6ii feel like a letdown, after shooting with the Z7ii for a while?

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Nov 4, 2023 10:03:41   #
redtooth
 
I have both and really can't tell much differance . Both are great cameras. Its which one I pick up to take with me .

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Nov 4, 2023 10:06:43   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I like both. I also like the Z9 and Z 50.

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Nov 4, 2023 10:50:00   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
I have every camera ever made, all set permanently to a specific f/stop or shutter speed. Of course, since there are different combinations of aperture and shutter speed I have 50 or so of each model camera to cover all the combinations. I just change cameras when the light changes or there is action to stop or blur. Much more convenient than fiddling around changing settings. I am now considering getting another 1,000 or so that I can cover more ISOs. I admit that I have missed a shot occasionally while rummaging around looking through the 300 semis that follow me everywhere carrying the cameras for the one with the right setting.

Does Lightroom have a module that can track cameras and which trailer they are stored in for instant access in the field?

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Nov 4, 2023 11:52:43   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
Now having both cameras I find that I am favoring the new baby Z7ii over the Z6ii which I have now for about a year. I know both are similar except for resolution 45 vs 24 MP, fps 10 vs 14, file sizes, lack of AA filter on the Z7ii.
When would you use one over the other (use cases), especially for those that have both cameras? Does going back to the Z6ii feel like a letdown, after shooting with the Z7ii for a while?


What do you shoot? Probably use the macro focus stacking & video. Another would be one with a long lens for wildlife & one for macro or a wide angle while hiking. Something like that is what would do if I had both of them not having to change lenses out in the field maybe in dusty or windy conditions. Just a thought since you asked. Happy shooting.

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Nov 4, 2023 12:12:36   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
redtooth wrote:
I have both and really can't tell much differance . Both are great cameras. Its which one I pick up to take with me .


You'll be able to tell the difference if you have to do some heavy cropping, sometimes necessary if you don't have a long enough lens for the situation.

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Nov 4, 2023 12:13:31   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
terryMc wrote:
I have every camera ever made, all set permanently to a specific f/stop or shutter speed. Of course, since there are different combinations of aperture and shutter speed I have 50 or so of each model camera to cover all the combinations. I just change cameras when the light changes or there is action to stop or blur. Much more convenient than fiddling around changing settings. I am now considering getting another 1,000 or so that I can cover more ISOs. I admit that I have missed a shot occasionally while rummaging around looking through the 300 semis that follow me everywhere carrying the cameras for the one with the right setting.

Does Lightroom have a module that can track cameras and which trailer they are stored in for instant access in the field?
I have every camera ever made, all set permanently... (show quote)



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Nov 4, 2023 12:14:33   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
Now having both cameras I find that I am favoring the new baby Z7ii over the Z6ii which I have now for about a year. I know both are similar except for resolution 45 vs 24 MP, fps 10 vs 14, file sizes, lack of AA filter on the Z7ii.
When would you use one over the other (use cases), especially for those that have both cameras? Does going back to the Z6ii feel like a letdown, after shooting with the Z7ii for a while?


Why did you get both?
Extra money laying around?

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Nov 4, 2023 14:03:34   #
craggycrossers Loc: Robin Hood Country, UK
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
Now having both cameras I find that I am favoring the new baby Z7ii over the Z6ii which I have now for about a year. I know both are similar except for resolution 45 vs 24 MP, fps 10 vs 14, file sizes, lack of AA filter on the Z7ii.
When would you use one over the other (use cases), especially for those that have both cameras? Does going back to the Z6ii feel like a letdown, after shooting with the Z7ii for a while?


Chris - just a thought from far away in the UK - did ya' think 'do I need both' before you bought again ?

But ya' bought 'em both ..... mmmm !

If ya' sell 'em both maybe one Z8 would 'do it' for ya', buddy !

Decisions ...... etc

To be clear ...... my history is Nikon D70, D300, D700, Fuji X-E1, X-T1, X-T2, X-T4 and Nikon Z6. Currently deciding the value to me of 'retaining two systems'.

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Nov 4, 2023 14:36:32   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
craggycrossers wrote:


To be clear ...... my history is Nikon D70, D300, D700, Fuji X-E1, X-T1, X-T2, X-T4 and Nikon Z6. Currently deciding the value to me of 'retaining two systems'.

I'd be very careful in getting rid of any, just in case one or more might have a different setting in the menu...

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Nov 4, 2023 16:23:29   #
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redtooth wrote:
I have both and really can't tell much differance . Both are great cameras. Its which one I pick up to take with me .

Same here. I bought the 6 (non II) first, then a pair of 7s (also non II) joined up. I work at high ISO (some would call it verrrry high) but any noise advantage of the 6 has not proved super significant ... but is there if you happen to be really picky.

Never feel any let down if using the 6. Mostly its just three verrry similar cameras on hand. (Some Hogsters might be quick to ask why.)

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Nov 4, 2023 18:42:30   #
craggycrossers Loc: Robin Hood Country, UK
 
terryMc wrote:
I'd be very careful in getting rid of any, just in case one or more might have a different setting in the menu...


Hi Terry - gotta say I'm not sure of your meaning - what i will say is I'm still 'compus mentis' enough of the way I have both Fuji and Nikon set up to be able to continue using either ....... whichever system I might (eventually) choose to discard. The question's simple for me ..... and nowt to do with 'affordability' ...... 'do I really need both systems ...... am I simply being extravagant'? I'm a simple 'hobbyist' !

Sale of Fuji gear and my Z6 would make a hefty contribution to the cost of a Z8 - we're all different !!

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Nov 4, 2023 19:45:20   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
craggycrossers wrote:
Hi Terry - gotta say I'm not sure of your meaning - what i will say is I'm still 'compus mentis' enough of the way I have both Fuji and Nikon set up to be able to continue using either ....... whichever system I might (eventually) choose to discard. The question's simple for me ..... and nowt to do with 'affordability' ...... 'do I really need both systems ...... am I simply being extravagant'? I'm a simple 'hobbyist' !

Sale of Fuji gear and my Z6 would make a hefty contribution to the cost of a Z8 - we're all different !!
Hi Terry - gotta say I'm not sure of your meaning ... (show quote)


In the end, it's your money to spend any way you wish, I just don't understand why even pros, but especially hobbyists, need to own every body in one system, let alone two or more. I can certainly see having a backup if you're doing something important, but rushing out to buy a new body every time one is released seems extravagant to me. Maybe it's because I've never had the kind of money to throw around that it takes to do that.

I traded all my film gear—one Canon T-90, and one Mamiya TLR and about 8 lenses for my first DSLR and, I think, two lenses. I don't remember if it was a D100 or 200, but I didn't like it and eventually got rid of it and got a D2X. Naturally, right after I bought it the D3 came out and I was stuck with the crop sensor, but it worked, and i used it for 20 years as my only camera. When I had money to spend, I spent it on a better lens.

After mirrorless cameras had been out for several years, I was starting to hear that manufacturers were beginning to phase out the DSLR so I thought I'd see what all the fuss was about, and I bought a Z50 and the 16-50 kit lens. I still had my Nikkor F-mounts, so I got the adapter. I loved the Z50 so I put the D2X on the shelf and for two years the Z50 was "my camera." But now I think I need a full frame, so what to do? There is now a Z5, Z6, Z6ii, Z7, Z7ii, Z9 and rumors of a Z8. After doing some research, (the Z6 is better for this, the Z7 for that, the Z9 is the flagship and does it all, but not as well as brand S, etc.)

I bought a Z7ii. I kept the Z50 (!! Two cameras?? Oh well, this may be my last fling, let's go all in!!)

Great camera, I loved it! So complicated, but I'll get it down eventually and then...what's this, the Z8 is out and it's the Z9 in a cheaper suit? Okay, but if I get that, the Z7ii has to go. I don't need THREE cameras under any conceivable circumstances. So I traded up under a Nikon promotion going on and now I have a Z50 and a Z8. I am slowly, one at a time, selling off my F-mount lenses and replacing them with Zs, but I have no duplicates; in fact I sold an almost new 200-500 and ordered a 180-600 (which I am STILL waiting for) and then I will be set for the rest of my life.

Already Nikon has announced a firmware update to the Z9 which is supposed to be unrivaled for it's bird focus capability. I will not buy a Z9 to get that. Many, many others will. The Z8 may or may not get something similar, but for me what it has already is fantastic (or will be, if I ever get the 180-600) and so this is my camera, forever.

Yeah, everyone is different...

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Nov 4, 2023 20:13:53   #
craggycrossers Loc: Robin Hood Country, UK
 
terryMc wrote:
In the end, it's your money to spend any way you wish, I just don't understand why even pros, but especially hobbyists, need to own every body in one system, let alone two or more. I can certainly see having a backup if you're doing something important, but rushing out to buy a new body every time one is released seems extravagant to me. Maybe it's because I've never had the kind of money to throw around that it takes to do that.

I traded all my film gear—one Canon T-90, and one Mamiya TLR and about 8 lenses for my first DSLR and, I think, two lenses. I don't remember if it was a D100 or 200, but I didn't like it and eventually got rid of it and got a D2X. Naturally, right after I bought it the D3 came out and I was stuck with the crop sensor, but it worked, and i used it for 20 years as my only camera. When I had money to spend, I spent it on a better lens.

After mirrorless cameras had been out for several years, I was starting to hear that manufacturers were beginning to phase out the DSLR so I thought I'd see what all the fuss was about, and I bought a Z50 and the 16-50 kit lens. I still had my Nikkor F-mounts, so I got the adapter. I loved the Z50 so I put the D2X on the shelf and for two years the Z50 was "my camera." But now I think I need a full frame, so what to do? There is now a Z5, Z6, Z6ii, Z7, Z7ii, Z9 and rumors of a Z8. After doing some research, (the Z6 is better for this, the Z7 for that, the Z9 is the flagship and does it all, but not as well as brand S, etc.)

I bought a Z7ii. I kept the Z50 (!! Two cameras?? Oh well, this may be my last fling, let's go all in!!)

Great camera, I loved it! So complicated, but I'll get it down eventually and then...what's this, the Z8 is out and it's the Z9 in a cheaper suit? Okay, but if I get that, the Z7ii has to go. I don't need THREE cameras under any conceivable circumstances. So I traded up under a Nikon promotion going on and now I have a Z50 and a Z8. I am slowly, one at a time, selling off my F-mount lenses and replacing them with Zs, but I have no duplicates; in fact I sold an almost new 200-500 and ordered a 180-600 (which I am STILL waiting for) and then I will be set for the rest of my life.

Already Nikon has announced a firmware update to the Z9 which is supposed to be unrivaled for it's bird focus capability. I will not buy a Z9 to get that. Many, many others will. The Z8 may or may not get something similar, but for me what it has already is fantastic (or will be, if I ever get the 180-600) and so this is my camera, forever.

Yeah, everyone is different...
In the end, it's your money to spend any way you w... (show quote)


Wow - that is indeed 'a history' - and there's so many 'similar' or 'slightly similar' stories. I count myself fortunate in that I went 'mirrorless' (Fuji) almost a decade ago, ran my D700 alongside for a while, but after that went totally mirrorless and am now left 'APS-C or Full Frame'. My decision, I guess !

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Nov 4, 2023 20:42:50   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
craggycrossers wrote:
Wow - that is indeed 'a history' - and there's so many 'similar' or 'slightly similar' stories. I count myself fortunate in that I went 'mirrorless' (Fuji) almost a decade ago, ran my D700 alongside for a while, but after that went totally mirrorless and am now left 'APS-C or Full Frame'. My decision, I guess !


Well, think about it: I have the Z50, which is an APS-C, and the Z8, which is full frame, and of course, has crop mode. I can even shoot square format if I want to, so I guess I don't have to look for a new Mamiya TLR that I loved so much. I have all of that and more in one body whenever I want it. What do I really need with a Z50?

We had an RV but it got to be too much trouble and expense to use it, so we sold it. Now I had a Chevy 2500HD that I didn't need. I sold it too, because I also have a very serviceable Ford Ranger that I have had for almost 27 years and while they are very different trucks, the Ranger is all I need for what I use a truck for. I see no point in having a bunch of vehicles cluttering up the place, costing money to maintain and insure, when I have what I need in the small truck. It's the same with cameras...

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