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Oct 14, 2023 14:20:00   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
https://www.prageru.com/video/why-isnt-there-a-palestinian-state

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Oct 14, 2023 14:48:51   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
https://www.prageru.com/video/why-isnt-there-a-palestinian-state


How do you pick your sources to link to? I'm guessing you pick one that suits your fancy, then you flip a coin and if it doesn't land on its edge, you go with it.

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Oct 14, 2023 15:06:51   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
thom w wrote:
How do you pick your sources to link to? I'm guessing you pick one that suits your fancy, then you flip a coin and if it doesn't land on its edge, you go with it.


So what is your objection to the actual message?

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Oct 14, 2023 15:43:27   #
lbrande
 
Racmanaz wrote:
So what is your objection to the actual message?


It sounds as if he is anti-Jew, and anti Israel.
Gaza was part of Egypt and the West Bank was part of Lebanon till 1967. The 6 day war finally gave Israel control of Jerusalem and Sinai.
It's funny that there was NO Palestinian complaints nor any Palestinians until AFTER 1967.

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Oct 14, 2023 18:16:24   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
lbrande wrote:
It sounds as if he is anti-Jew, and anti Israel.
Gaza was part of Egypt and the West Bank was part of Lebanon till 1967. The 6 day war finally gave Israel control of Jerusalem and Sinai.
It's funny that there was NO Palestinian complaints nor any Palestinians until AFTER 1967.


There was Arab aggression from the day Israel declared statehood. In fact even before that, Arab leaders refused the offer of an Arab state in 1948 because accepting it meant recognizing the State of Israel.

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Oct 14, 2023 18:37:34   #
lbrande
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
There was Arab aggression from the day Israel declared statehood. In fact even before that, Arab leaders refused the offer of an Arab state in 1948 because accepting it meant recognizing the State of Israel.


I was taught "That which is hateful unto you, do not do to your neighbor."
If, however, they do evil to you, respond without mercy. Sometimes mercy is a luxury that cannot be afforded if we are to live in peace.



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Oct 14, 2023 19:16:17   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
So what is your objection to the actual message?


Didn't read it or I probably would have commented on it.

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Oct 14, 2023 19:31:06   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
lbrande wrote:
It sounds as if he is anti-Jew, and anti Israel.
Gaza was part of Egypt and the West Bank was part of Lebanon till 1967. The 6 day war finally gave Israel control of Jerusalem and Sinai.
It's funny that there was NO Palestinian complaints nor any Palestinians until AFTER 1967.


In what way does it sound that way? What difference does it make what they called themselves. The land was not empty. The Israelis, who the British called terrorists, took that land in 1948. You could do just a bit more reading.

https://www.google.com/search?q=when+did+palistinians+first+show+up+in+what+is+now+israel.&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS811US811&oq=when+did+palistinians+first+show+up+in+what+is+now+israel.&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiiBDIHCAIQABiiBDIHCAMQABiiBNIBCTQ0NTUyajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Seems there were Palestinians long before 1967. I didn't try to pick just articles that support my point of view. I linked to the entire Google page.

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Oct 14, 2023 19:34:40   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
thom w wrote:
In what way does it sound that way? What difference does it make what they called themselves. The land was not empty. The Israelis, who the British called terrorists, took that land in 1948. You could do just a bit more reading.

https://www.google.com/search?q=when+did+palistinians+first+show+up+in+what+is+now+israel.&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS811US811&oq=when+did+palistinians+first+show+up+in+what+is+now+israel.&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiiBDIHCAIQABiiBDIHCAMQABiiBNIBCTQ0NTUyajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
In what way does it sound that way? What differenc... (show quote)


For some reason you seem to think that the Jews (Israelis) just came into existence in 1948. The Jews have been in that land for thousands of years.

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Oct 14, 2023 19:38:37   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
For some reason you seem to think that the Jews (Israelis) just came into existence in 1948. The Jews have been in that land for thousands of years.


They didn't own or occupy that land for thousand of years. If they had there would have been no need to force Britain to let them have it through terrorist activities.

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Oct 14, 2023 19:42:20   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
thom w wrote:
They didn't own or occupy that land for thousand of years. If they had there would have been no need to force Britain to let them have it through terrorist activities.


Lol BS. By the way, why are you here in America? You should move out because unless you’re an Indian, you do not belong here.

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Oct 14, 2023 19:44:23   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
thom w wrote:
They didn't own or occupy that land for thousand of years. If they had there would have been no need to force Britain to let them have it through terrorist activities.


You do realize that the Jews were driven out of their land in 70 A.D. right?

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Oct 14, 2023 19:49:57   #
lbrande
 
thom w wrote:
They didn't own or occupy that land for thousand of years. If they had there would have been no need to force Britain to let them have it through terrorist activities.


I strongly suggest that you review the history of the region because your knowledge of Jewish occupation in the region goes back over 3000 years. Until 1948, the term ‘Palestinian’ had no meaning regarding the ethnic or religious identity of a resident of that region. "Palestinians" in that region included Arab Christians, Muslims, Jews, and EVERYBODY ELSE who happened to live in that territory - which belonged to the Ottoman Turkish empire until 1918, and to the British between 1918 and 1948.

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Oct 14, 2023 20:06:15   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
thom w wrote:
They didn't own or occupy that land for thousand of years. If they had there would have been no need to force Britain to let them have it through terrorist activities.


The Jewish population of Jerusalem in 1517 was 5,000.

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Oct 15, 2023 11:31:04   #
FrumCA
 
thom w wrote:
How do you pick your sources to link to? I'm guessing you pick one that suits your fancy, then you flip a coin and if it doesn't land on its edge, you go with it.

It's a history lesson. If you didn't listen to it, you missed yet another opportunity to learn something you probably didn't know. What is it that compels you to decide to remain ignorant on some subjects?

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