I am curious how many do or don’t use Nikon’s active D lighting either in camera or post shooting using Nikon’s retouching software?
What say yea?
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
JD750 wrote:
I am curious how many do or don’t use Nikon’s active D lighting either in camera or post shooting using Nikon’s retouching software?
What say yea?
I wonder how many of us even use Nikon. Personally, I use Pentax and get lost when people use Nikon-specific terms:
rehess wrote:
I wonder how many of us even use Nikon. Personally, I use Pentax and get lost when people use Nikon-specific terms:
It probably has a different specific name for other brands.
“Active D-Lighting takes place in the camera at the moment the photo is taken and applies digital processing only to the necessary portion(s) of the image.”
“Active D-Lighting preserves details in highlights and shadows for natural contrast.”
I used to use D lighting but now I don't any more. I still use it in post.
JD750 wrote:
It probably has a different specific name for other brands.
“Active D-Lighting takes place in the camera at the moment the photo is taken and applies digital processing only to the necessary portion(s) of the image.”
“Active D-Lighting preserves details in highlights and shadows for natural contrast.”
How much of the technical details to you actually understand, beyond the quoted marketing nonsense?
Using this setting can cause your camera to override your human decision making, I believe now even in Manual exposure mode. It also 'processes' your JPEGs slightly differently, especially in bringing out the details of your shadows. The processing data is included in the RAW, but you have to use Nikon software to have these details available for application to the RAW; other software ignores these processing ideas. If ADL changed (overrode) your exposure, that change is reflected in the RAW as that was a change to the in-camera settings when the shutter was released.
ADL has various processing options (AUTO, Extra High, High, Normal and Low). ADL works best with Nikon's "entire frame" metering, the Matrix setting.
If you're shooting RAW, ADL is probably worthless, as you (the human) have all the control over the processing of the image (highlights, shadows, WB, overall exposure). If you're shooting JPEG, ADL may be useful to 'fix' any poor choices you made in the exposure settings vs the actual image lighting / contrast situation.
JD750 wrote:
I am curious how many do or don’t use Nikon’s active D lighting either in camera or post shooting using Nikon’s retouching software?
What say yea?
I usually activate it during "retouching", aka "processing the NEF". My aversion to boring imagery causes me to prefer shooting under "challenging" illuminations.
Paul seems dismissive of it principally on the basis that it not a Canon thing, and also that the users he encounters seem to be dimbulbs. Sux2B him in that way :-(
JD750 wrote:
I am curious how many do or don’t use Nikon’s active D lighting either in camera or post shooting using Nikon’s retouching software?
What say yea?
I use Active D lighting at various levels at exposure, usually toward the milder end. It is very helpful on sunny Texas days because it flattens the ends of the response curve. The degree of effect, and whether it works on one or both ends of the curve, are both controllable.
And Paul is correct...it is very important to understand how ADL interacts with other picture controls, Contrast in particular. ADL affects Contrast settings, and changes to Contrast will impact how ADL works.
ADL is harmless to the raw file. So if it falls short of producing a JPEG that meets requirements, the raw version is still available for processing.
User ID wrote:
I usually activate it during retouching, aka processing the NEF. An aversion to boring imagery leads me to prefer shooting under "challenging" illuminations.
Paul seems dismissive of it principally on the basis that it not a Canon thing, and also that the users he encounters seem to be dimbulbs.
We have all these UHH 'super humans' convinced their brains are smarter than a special-purpose computer inside their camera, as well as having faster finger dexterity than that same camera-controlling computer. Their 'how' is so much more important than the 'what' of the image result. Hence, ADL should be an anathema.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
User ID wrote:
Paul seems dismissive of it principally on the basis that it not a Canon thing, and also that the users he encounters seem to be dimbulbs. Sux2B him in that way :-(
or maybe he recognizes the difference between a general discussion and what is really a Nikon-only discussion masquerading as a general discussion.
One thing that makes me stop using it because it does make a difference with the raw files. It decreases the exposure by a small amount.
BebuLamar wrote:
One thing that makes me stop using it because it does make a difference with the raw files. It decreases the exposure by a small amount.
I have found that I use ADL on bright days with full sun. I have not found that it decreases exposure with the settings I use. Even if it did, I am usually shooting landscapes or railroads at ISOs of 200 or below. I could easily afford to pay a half or even a full step out of the 14 stops of available DR for the convenience.
larryepage wrote:
I have found that I use ADL on bright days with full sun. I have not found that it decreases exposure with the settings I use. Even if it did, I am usually shooting landscapes or railroads at ISOs of 200 or below. I could easily afford to pay a half or even a full step out of the 14 stops of available DR for the convenience.
You won't notice it unless you take 2 identical shots one with and one without ADL.
BebuLamar wrote:
You won't notice it unless you take 2 identical shots one with and one without ADL.
If you choose a level that affects the response curve at both ends, the exposure will not change.
CHG_CANON wrote:
We have all these UHH 'super humans' convinced their brains are smarter than a special-purpose computer inside their camera, as well as having faster finger dexterity than that same camera-controlling computer. Their 'how' is so much more important than the 'what' of the image result. Hence, ADL should be an anathema.
Ps, for those terrified of AI this and other such stuff is already AI baked into cameras.
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