Nobel Prize for medicine awarded to the developers of the Covid vaccine
Oct 15, 2023 16:20:25 #
TimmyKnowles wrote:
I have a lot more respect for David Corn's work th... (show quote)
Didn't Eric Clapton suffer severe side effects from the covid vaccine? Maybe not so much a conspiracy theorist as legitimate complainer.
Oct 15, 2023 16:27:33 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
ruzbynik wrote:
Didn't Eric Clapton suffer severe side effects from the covid vaccine? Maybe not so much a conspiracy theorist as legitimate complainer.
Ya well, we have to be very careful about propping up the few that had some bad side effects. From my understanding, almost all vaccines have risks of side effects including death. But the overall benefits outweigh the risks for the majority of the vaccinated and would be much worst in totality if vaccines were not available including the Covid vaccine.
Oct 15, 2023 21:18:34 #
Racmanaz wrote:
Ya well, we have to be very careful about propping up the few that had some bad side effects. From my understanding, almost all vaccines have risks of side effects including death. But the overall benefits outweigh the risks for the majority of the vaccinated and would be much worst in totality if vaccines were not available including the Covid vaccine.
Do you believe that the VAERS data is underreported? Nevertheless, the total adverse events now exceed 1.5 million. Thats a lot of conspiracy theorists experiencing a lot of suffering, but hey, let's not discuss that, it might cause the dreaded vaccine hesitancy.
Oct 15, 2023 22:03:32 #
ruzbynik wrote:
I respect what you say but allow me to correct a f... (show quote)
It was dumb luck. My wife had Covid after we visited some friends that should have been more careful, but had visited a doctor where none of the patients were wearing masks. She still has symptoms after 10 months. I never tested positive and had no symptoms. I drink, she doesn't. I eat anything, she watches her diet. Healthy living has nothing to do with it.
Oct 15, 2023 22:18:54 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
ruzbynik wrote:
Do you believe that the VAERS data is underreported? Nevertheless, the total adverse events now exceed 1.5 million. Thats a lot of conspiracy theorists experiencing a lot of suffering, but hey, let's not discuss that, it might cause the dreaded vaccine hesitancy.
OK what percentage of that 1.5 million adverse reactions were serious enough to required serious or moderate medical attention?
Oct 16, 2023 14:16:56 #
Racmanaz wrote:
OK what percentage of that 1.5 million adverse reactions were serious enough to required serious or moderate medical attention?
The VAERS is intended to provide early warning of safety issues with vaccines. It is not proof of any adverse effect. Do you believe that 1.5 million reports might indicate a safety problem?
Oct 16, 2023 20:31:11 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
ruzbynik wrote:
The VAERS is intended to provide early warning of safety issues with vaccines. It is not proof of any adverse effect. Do you believe that 1.5 million reports might indicate a safety problem?
Wouldn't that depend on the sample size, what the adverse reactions are, and if cause and effect can be proven?
Oct 16, 2023 21:24:13 #
thom w wrote:
Wouldn't that depend on the sample size, what the adverse reactions are, and if cause and effect can be proven?
Well there are only 31,000 deaths, so nothing to see here. But what happened to "first do no harm"? If these numbers are not sufficient to signal a safety issue then how many would you require?
Oct 16, 2023 22:04:15 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
ruzbynik wrote:
Well there are only 31,000 deaths, so nothing to see here. But what happened to "first do no harm"? If these numbers are not sufficient to signal a safety issue then how many would you require?
What methods were used to determine if a correlation indicated cause and effect.
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